Genealogy Chat

Sorry Rose, I've only just seen your message and ontrying to find the 1851 entry for you I've come up with a blank. Don't know where I got that from - my mistake - sorry. Lindy

Lindy, Where are they in 1851? Can you please post the details. Rose

Thanks Maureen, good to see their in Newington, helps to narrow it down. Selena

1861 just for info Name: Charlotte Parsons Age: 33 Estimated birth year: abt 1828 Relation: Head Gender: Female Where born: London Road St Georges, Surrey Civil parish: Newington Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary County/Island: Surrey Country: England Street address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: View image Registration district: Newington Sub-registration district: St Mary ED, institution, or vessel: 12 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 204 Household Members: Name Age Hannah Foster 33 Adelaide Grant 19 Charles Parsons 5 Charlotte Parsons 33 Charlotte Parsons 5 Mo Joseph Parsons 13 Emma Twitchet 18 I have not found a match for 1851 census Maureen

I'm glad it might be helpful. I'm not too surprised about the different places, I have one relative, lived Greenwich, died Whitechapel but buried back in Greenwich. Had trouble finding his death as I kept looking in Greenwich. Maybe John was in some sort of hospital. I'd be very tempted to buy the death cert to see who the informant was. Don't know how to get more on Charles. You could contact Southwark archives by email and see if they can tell you anymore as you have the date etc. their website is: www.southwark.gov.uk Good luck, and please let me know how you get on. Selena

Thanks for all that Selena. The Charlotte 1860 is the one I have the birth cert. for but as I said no father and no MMN on it. The birth you found for Charles in the workhouse I am convinced this must be the right one but don't know how to get a birth cert. without the extra details. The death for John Parsons 1860 is a possibility, as Charlotte (Mother) is shown as a widow on 1861 Census but wondered why he is in East End of London when rest of family in SE. I'll keep on it, and let you know when/if I confirm things. Thanks again. Linda

Possible death? Deaths Dec 1860 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Parsons John Bethnal Gn 1c 180 Let us know if anything good comes out of these!

Births Dec 1860 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- PARSONS Charlotte Newington 1d 241 Is this the certificate you ordered? Its the same place, Newington, that Charles was born in and where they were living in 1881.

Household: 1881 Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability Charlotte PARSONS Head W Female 55 Southwark, Surrey, England Charley PARSONS Son U Male 25 Southwark, Surrey, England Labourer Charlotte PARSONS Daur Female 19 Southwark, Surrey, England Source Information: Dwelling 185 Trafalgar St Census Place Newington, Surrey, England Family History Library Film 1341124 Public Records Office Reference RG11 Piece / Folio 0545 / 14 Page Number 21

Hello, I found the entry for Charles at the workhouse on the familysearch website, also known as the IGI. Re: Mary Perkins, not mine unfortunately, her father was George and she was born Deptford 1839, so a bit old for your Charles! Have a play on familysearch, as there are two Parsons families with Charlotte as mother! Selena

Selina, where did you find Chas. Parsons, March 1856 - St Mary Workhouse, Southwark. It sound like he is the one I'm looking for. This Charles Wm Parsons married Mary Ann Perkins 4th July, 1881 her fathers name was Richard Perkins a Coachman, not the same one is it?

Births Sep 1848 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- PARSONS Joseph Bethnal Gr 2 31

Is this any use? CHARLES PARSONS Male Birth: 16 MAR 1856 Saint Mary Newington Workhouse, Southwark, London, England Parents: Mother: CHARLOTTE PARSONS

Can someone put up the 1851 please (don't have ancestry). Have I read it wrong, Charles born c1855 but showing on the 1851 census before he was born? I have a Mary Perkins in my tree too! Selena

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Glitter, thanks for helping. this is what I have: John Parsons (C1836) m Charlotte ????(C1826) children Joseph P Parsons(C1848) Charles Wm. Parsons(C1855) Charlotte Parsons(1860) 1851 Census show John, Charlotte, Joseph & Charles. 1861 Census shows Charlotte (widow) Joseph, Charles & Charlotte (5mths). I sent for young Charlottes Birth cert. to get mother Charlottes maiden name. Cert. came back no father and no maiden name for mother. Sent for what I thought was Chas.Wm. birth cert. 1855 Mar. Lambeth Vol.1d Page 311 this has arrived no fathers name and again no mothers maiden name.(Think I may have ordered the wrong one because mother is shown as Ann Parsons and Chas. middle name is missing) but I can't find anything else which might be it. I do have Chas. Wm. marriage cert.to Mary Ann Perkins which does confirm his father was John Parsons.

1861 ?? Name: Charles Parsons Age: 6 Estimated birth year: abt 1855 Relation: Son Father's name: Alfred Mother's name: Charlottie Gender: Male Where born: Stepney, Middlesex, England Civil parish: Stepney St Dunstan Ecclesiastical parish: St Dunstan County/Island: Middlesex Country: England Street address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: View image Registration district: Mile End Old Town Sub-registration district: Mile End Old Town Western ED, institution, or vessel: 31 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 7 Household Members: Name Age Alfa John Parsons 2 Alfred Parsons 42 Alice Parsons 15 Charles Parsons 6 Charlottie Parsons 40 Hannah Parsons 4 Harriet Lash Parsons 10 Mo Richard Willm Parsons 11

Are you looking at the birth in 1855 in Stepney? Not found a match on 1861 with both of those parents Maureen

I would like the birth of Charles William Parsons born 1855(C) as I wish to confirm his father and mother as John Parsons & Charlotte ???? I have just received a cert. which I thought was him but I now have my reservations about this.