Genealogy Chat

this is my 3rd time of trying to find out whatever happened to my g grandfather william edward oakes.......he was born in 1877 in garston ,liverpool......he married sophia sacht (schacht)in liverpool ,and they had 9 children.....the 1st born was daniel....b 1899 ...he was my grandfather......william edward oakes seems to dissapear around the time of the 1st ww......can`t find nothing in military records.....i know 1 son,evan datlef oakes was born in 1912,and winnifred oakes was the last of the 9,so i think she was born abt 1913/14..........can anyone give me any tips on williams death.......i`ve tried igi,but only have him as a 4yr old in 1881 census.......if anyone can find him on 1901 census (10 banks rd,garston was the family home,..obviously ,william would have moved out ,but still in garston)) i may be able to find out his occupation....my dad,who has passed away,told me he knew nothing of his grandfather,but thought he went away to sea.....any tips/help/ would be appreciated,,,,,i really would like to make some progress today on william edward oakes if possible.......thanks......allan

the last child being born 1913/14 suggests he was lost in WW1. There are 20 William Oakes on the CWCG site. perhaps you can identify with one of them. Shirley

is this him in 1901 ame: William Edward Oakes Age: 4 Estimated birth year: abt 1897 Relation: Nephew Gender: Male Where born: Garston, Lancashire, England Civil parish: Garston Ecclesiastical parish: St Michael County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: Education: Employment status: View image Registration district: West Derby Sub-registration district: Wavertree ED, institution, or vessel: 28 GLENDA

no glenda,thats william edward oakes b 1896.....william edward oakes b 1877 ,is who we are trying to research....w.e.oakes1896 ,was his nephew...i`ve got all his details......thanks....allan

hi shirley......i`ve searched the cwgc.......although there are 20 w.oakes......there`s not 1 w.e.oakes.....am i doing this wrong....should i surf thru all the w.oakes???..thanks.....allan.....added....shirley,i`ve searched through all 20 w.oakes....none of them fit....w.e.would have been 37 in 1914......no matches.......regards....allan

thanks very much judith.......yes thats my grandad with his mum/sister/and grandparents......maybe william was a seafarer and was away at sea at the time of the census....william and sophia had another 7 children ......regards.....allan

thanks judith......i had my grandad as being born 1899.....more likely 1900......with w.e. and sophia marrying in sep qtr 1899...regards......allan

thanks again judith......thats my dads uncle paul.....i knew him well,but i thought he was older than winnifred.....so paul must have been the youngest child......so now we know william was alive in 1916.......or do we?...maybe skeletons in the cupboard....hmmm......regards....allan

judith........i have no record of a john oakes b 1913 ,,,,is john the child of william edward and sophia sacht??.....if so,he must have died as a baby,because i knew all my grandads bros/sisters....mary ellen died as a baby,but i`ve never heard of any mention of a john oakes....any more details???....regards....allan

Hi Allan You say that you can't find him but have you actually trawled all the deaths from 9 months before the birth of the last child onwards? Chrissie

thanks judith/crissie.......with a mothers maiden name of sacht,john has to be william and sophias child.....obviously died aged 1,,,,,i didn`t have him on my tree ,so thats a bonus.....i`ll try ancestry,though i signed up with them 3 yrs ago...every time i try and get on,i`m not 'registered'.......regards...allan

well....NOT ONE death of a william oakes on lancashire bmd from 1916 -1952....so he didn`t die in garston/liverpool.....if he died at sea during ww1,,probably merchant navy,what site would i search??......regards....allan

Lancsbmd is not complete - you need Ancestry to access all the deaths. OC

thanks judith/OC.....thats the way it always ends up every time i try and research william edward oakes....i just get nowhere....i think he may have been absconded by aliens from the planet zod.......thanks/regards/....allan