Genealogy Chat

Hi I am hoping a new pair of eyes can find my family in 1861, I hae them in all the census except 1861, the person I am looking for is Edmund James LORD b1853, I have never been able to find a record of his birth, and although registration wasnt compulary, all his siblings were registered, so why not him. The nearest I have found has him as Ellen Jane and female, but other family members are similar, I would dearly love to find him, Here he is in 1871 Edmund J Lord Age: 18 Estimated birth year: abt 1853 Relation: Son Mother's name: Margaret Gender: Male Where born: Bacup, Lancashire, England Civil parish: Newchurch Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: Disability: View image Registration district: Haslingden Sub-registration district: Newchurch ED, institution, or vessel: 3 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 126 Household Members: Name Age Ann Lord 7 Edmund J Lord 18 Margaret Lord 50 Mary A Lord 15 Mary E Lord 20 View Original Record View original image View blank form Save This Record Attach this record to a person in your tree as a source record, or save for later evaluation. Save Source Citation: Class: RG10; Piece: 4133; Folio: 61; Page: 24; GSU roll: 846723. Thanks everyone Ann

Hi, What about this birth Name: Edmund Lord Year of Registration: 1854 Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar District: Haslingden County: Lancashire Volume: 8e Page: 105 (click to see others on page)

There is a registration for an ELLONOR (sic) Lord, in 1853, mmn Lord, so if Edmund was definitely born in 1851, this isnt him, if you see what I mean! Is it possible that he had a different surname at birth and mother married around 1863? Also, I often find the names Edward and Edmund are confused for each other - they are virtually identical when written in flowing Victorian script. OC

Mmmmm It could be him, I will have to get the cert, I will order it now Thanks Ann

I will post the 1871 here as it hasnt come out very well Edmund J Lord Age: 18 Estimated birth year: abt 1853 Relation: Son Mother's name: Margaret Gender: Male Where born: Bacup, Lancashire, England Civil parish: Newchurch Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: Disability: View image Registration district: Haslingden Sub-registration district: Newchurch ED, institution, or vessel: 3 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 126 Household Members: Name Age Ann Lord 7 Edmund J Lord 18 Margaret Lord 50 Mary A Lord 15 Mary E Lord 20 View Original Record View original image View blank form Save This Record Attach this record to a person in your tree as a source record, or save for later evaluation. Save Source Citation: Class: RG10; Piece: 4133; Folio: 61; Page: 24; GSU roll: 846723.

Thanks OC I have his parents marriage cert from 1838, they were John LORD and Peggy MILLS, I think after John died ( cant find that either) Peggy appears to be known as Margaret ( a bit posher) Edmund James went on to marry Mary Ann Duckworth in 1874, and on the marriage cert his father is John a deceased coalminer Edmund didnt have any daughters he had two sons John Ralph and Edmund Thanks Ann

Oh dear, there are an awful lot of Margarets marrying men called Lord, but this one caught my eye: Margaret Heyworth to Abraham Lord, 1845, Bacup. But there is also a Margaret Heyworth to Samuel Lord, 1847, Haslingden which would correspond more closely with the birth details above. Can you not find this family on the 1851 census? OC

I have the marriage cert of Peggy MILLS marrying John LORD ar Goodshaw Chapel, in 1838, I dont have them on the 1851 or the 1841 and would be interested to see them if anyone can find them Thanks Ann

I have to start work now, but will check back at lunch time to hopefully find my family before 1871 Thanks everyone, Ann

It appears no-one else can find them either, I was hoping it was just me Ann

Hi Ann Is this them in 1841? John is listed as a Coalminer Name: John Lord Age: 20 Estimated birth year: abt 1821 Gender: Male Where born: Lancashire, England Civil parish: Rochdale Hundred: Salford County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Registration district: Rochdale Sub-registration district: Whitworth and Brandwood Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age John Lord 20 Peggy Lord 20

Hi Here they are the same family in 1851 Name: Peggy Lord Age: 30 Estimated birth year: abt 1821 Relation: Wife Spouse's name: John Gender: Female Where born: Whalley, Lancashire, England Civil parish: Newchurch Ecclesiastical parish: St John County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: Disability: View image Registration district: Haslingden Sub-registration district: Newchurch ED, institution, or vessel: 1m Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 152 Household Members: Name Age Ann Lord 8 Betty Lord 4 John Lord 32 John Lord 6 Mary Ellen Lord 8 Mo Peggy Lord 30 John still listed as a coalminer Cheryl

Hi Here the rest of the family are in 1861 But Edmund's not with them. Name: Margaret Lord Age: 42 Estimated birth year: abt 1819 Relation: Head Gender: Female Where born: Newchurch, Lancashire, England Civil parish: Newchurch Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: View image Registration district: Haslingden Sub-registration district: Newchurch ED, institution, or vessel: 1 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 4 Household Members: Name Age Betty Lord 15 Ellen J Lord 8 John Lord 17 Margaret Lord 42 Margaret E Lord 11 Mary E Lord 4 Regards Cheryl

Hi Cheryl That is fantastic, that is them as the children are the same, although as usuaul the ages of them are a bit out, interesting on the 1861 Ellen J is the correct age for the Edmund James I am looking for, and there is no sign of Ellen J on the 1871???????? Can you please let me have the address for the 41, 51 and 61, I know that in 1871 they were living at Change, Todmorden Road, Bacup, I wondered if the were there before. At last I have found the family and when I get the cert for the Edmund that OC found maybe I have his birth., Many thanks Ann

Hi Ann Glad to be of help. 1841: Address: looks like either Foote Hill or Toote Hill its very very faint 1851 and 1861 Address is Change,Todmortden Road Baccup Just looked at the 1861 again it could be Edmund or Ellen but it diffinately says daughter. Happy hunting Cheryl

Hi again Looking at the 1861 Margaret E is 11, do you think she is Mary E from the 1851 who is only months old? as we also have a Mary E on the 1851 aged 4, Could Edmund be Ellen and there be an error with with his sex It appears the 1861 is quite wrong, but at least I have found them I have been lookign for them for over a year now, this is a big day for me, Many thanks Ann