Genealogy Chat

Thanks Georgina , Wonder if it could be some sort of pension - as it was a short while later? Mind you I would think it highly unlikely anyone would pay a pension to anyone in those days I think I will apply for certificate - but I wonder what the records in Kew are about... Alice

Alice this could be his death, if you send for the certificate it might answer your questions.. Deaths Dec 1865 (>99%) Faichen Alfred Pancras 1b 48 Georgina.

Thank you for all that ! I found this on the National archives site: Scope and content Original page number: 459 Alfred FAICHEN; Rating; Born: 28 June 1845, Southampton, London; Age on entry: [Not Given]; Dates served: [Not Given]; Date and Type of Application: Whitehall 1 January 1866. See also ADM 139/553 CS 15269A Not really sure what it is but it seems he may have died in London in 1866 - does anyone know what this record would be about? Alice

Glitter Babe I think you are right - that could be him - never thought of him going to sea Alice

Sorry I was away for a while - what good detectives you all are. All the people you have found are correct - Ann and Emily were both his sisters . his mother was Ann and you have the family mistranscribed in 1851. Will try to stick with you all for a while! Alice

Looks like they were in the St Pancras area: Marriages Jun 1862 Faichen Ann Pancras 1b 92 Deaths Dec 1865 Faichen Alfred Pancras 1b 48 Rose

His father was William..I cant see them in 1851.. Deaths Mar 1851 (96%) FAICHEN William Southampton 7 1243 Georgina.

Hi, Could his mother have remarried and therefore Alfred was on the census with his mother's new married name. I take it from your details he had an older sister? Have you found him on the 1851 census? Kind Regards Jane(Victoria is my first name)

Who's this? Another sister if Rose is right. 1861: Name: Emily Faichen Age: 20 Estimated birth year: abt 1841 Relation: Gender: Female Where born: Hantshire, Southampton Civil parish: Westminster St James Ecclesiastical parish: London Town: London County/Island: Middlesex Country: England Street address: 9 Nags Head Mews (Gallery) Occupation: shirt maker Condition as to marriage: View image Registration district: St James Westminster Sub-registration district: Golden Square ED, institution, or vessel: 6 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 165 Household Members: Name Age Emily Faichen 20 Mary Ann King 50 Anorah Leonard 53

1841 census... Name: William Faichen Age: 30 Estimated birth year: abt 1811 Gender: Male Where born: Hampshire, England Civil parish: St Mary Hundred: Southampton Town County/Island: Hampshire Country: England Street address: Occupation: View image Registration district: Southampton Sub-registration district: Southampton Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Ann Faichen 30 Catherine Faichen 4 Emily Faichen 1 Jane Faichen 6 William Faichen 30 Georgina.

Is this the sister? 1861: Name: Ann Fachin Age: 11 Estimated birth year: abt 1850 Relation: Pauper Gender: Female Where born: Southampton, Hampshire, England Civil parish: Southampton St Mary Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary County/Island: Hampshire Country: England Street address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: View image Registration district: Southampton Sub-registration district: Southampton ED, institution, or vessel: Southampton Workhouse

Is this him in 1851 ? If not can you post the details... Name: Alfred Faigen Age: 4 Estimated birth year: abt 1847 Relation: Son Mother's name: Ann Gender: Male Where born: Southampton, Hampshire, England Civil parish: Southampton St Mary Town: Southampton County/Island: Hampshire Country: England Street address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: Disability: View image Registration district: Southampton Sub-registration district: Southampton ED, institution, or vessel: 1g Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 41 Household Members: Name Age Alfred Faigen 4 Ann Faigen 43 Ann Faigen 18 Catherine Faigen 14 Emily Faigen 11 William Faigen 9 Georgina.

1861 how about this one? Name: Alfred Frichen Age: 16 Estimated birth year: abt 1845 Relation: Boys 2nd Class Gender: Male Where born: Southampton, Hampshire, England Civil parish: Vessels Town: Southampton County/Island: Royal Navy Country: England Street address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: View image Registration district: Royal Navy Sub-registration district: Royal Navy ED, institution, or vessel: Eagle Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 1 I think the image is Faichen

Can you list his details in 1851? Rose

Is this them in 51? 1851 England Census about Emily Faigen Name: Emily Faigen Age: 11 Estimated birth year: abt 1840 Relation: Daughter Mother's name: Ann Gender: Female Where born: Southampton, Hampshire, England Civil parish: Southampton St Mary Town: Southampton County/Island: Hampshire Country: England Registration district: Southampton Sub-registration district: Southampton ED, institution, or vessel: 1g Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 41 Household Members: Name Age Alfred Faigen 4 Ann Faigen 43 Ann Faigen 18 Catherine Faigen 14 Emily Faigen 11 William Faigen 9 Rose

Born 1846 in Southampton. I know his father died in 1851 and his mother went to london leaving his sister in the workhouse. Anyone able to find him on the 1861 census please? Alice