Genealogy Chat

Hi Julie I see where your coming from!!!! This family are nearly driving me round the bend. I'm beginning to loose my train of thought!!!!!!!. I can't even find them in 1881 now. Let me start from the beginning As far as I am aware my Grandmother was Mary Atkins born 1881 in Hucknall Nottingham. She died in 1928 when my father was a small child.Aged 47 years. She married my Grand father in 1905 in Nottingham. On their marriage certificate it states her father as Edwin Atkins Coal Miner. I know all the above is correct. So i looked on the 1891 Census and found the family I've listed in my message. I have a marriage certificate for Lily Atkins to Edward Mapletoft. Marriage Certificate states father Edwin Atkins Coal Miner.So I assumed the 1891 Census I have to be correct family. But now I'm working on assumptions only as I cannot find any other information either Marriage or Births or deaths. Any suggestions????????? Cheryl

Hi Cheryl The reason i wondered if it was then cos of what Jeanette said in her 1st post, Edwin would of only been 16 in that marriage to Sarah Heard Julie It also seem strange that they married 14 years before 1st child was born

Hi Julie Don't think that this is my Edwin and Sarah as my Edwin was a Coal Miner not a printer. But thanks for trying, really appreciate it. Cheryl

Hi Julie I haven't been able to find a birth certificate for any of the children. The only things I have are Lily Atkins marriage to Edward Mapletoft. Stating Father as Edwin Atkins Coal Miner. Also Mary Atkins marriage to Henry Foden which states the same. This lot are a real pain!!!!. Mary was my Grandmother but she died when my father was only 7, so I'm not sure about anything really. But you could be on to something. I am going to see again if I can find my Grans Birth Certificate, also send for the other marriage certificate that you found. Thank you for your help Cheryl

Hi Jeanette The Lily Atkins birth that you found is not my Lily Atkins. I sent for that certificate and it was the wrong one. But thanks very much for trying. Cheryl

Don't forget you can select the 1861 census on Ancestry and scroll right down to see how many census pieces are missing. It could be the people you want are on missing pieces. I believe I had thatwith two of the families I was trying to follow. Clive

According to the 91 census Sarah and daughter Lily were born Tamworth, Staff. Daughter Mary born Hicknall?, Nottingham and Joseph & Robert born Bulwell?, Nottingham. Edwin is a coal miner,

Cheryl Sorry to ask but did you get mother maiden name from a B/C cos i have found this, Marriages Dec 1870 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>ATKINS Edwin Aston 6d 413 >>FLINT Sarah Aston 6d 413 Griffiths Herbert Aston 6d 413 WILLIAMS Sarah Aston 6d 413 1871 Edwin Atkins Age: 26 Estimated birth year: abt 1845 Relation: Son-in-law Spouse's name: Sarah A Gender: Male Where born: Claines, Worcestershire, England Civil parish: Birmingham Ecclesiastical parish: St Bartholomew Town: Birmingham County/Island: Warwickshire Country: England Street address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: Disability: View image Registration district: Birmingham Sub-registration district: St Peter ED, institution, or vessel: 10 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 113 Household Members: Name Age Edwin Atkins 26 Sarah A Atkins 23 Edwin A Flint 4 months Elizabeth Flint 41 Frank Flint 3 James Flint 46

only lily Atkins birth i can see Lily Atkins Year of Registration: 1875 Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec DISTRICT: Coventry County: Warwickshire, West Midlands Volume: 6d Page: 525 (click to see others on page) this is her I think she is with one L in 1891 Lilly Atkins Age: 5 Estimated birth year: abt 1876 Relation: Daughter Father's name: Thomas H. Mother's name: Caroline Gender: Female Where born: Coventry Civil parish: Coventry Holy Trinity County/Island: Warwickshire Country: England Street address: 71 Far Gosford St Education: Employment status: View image Occupation: Scholar Registration district: Coventry Sub-registration district: Holy Trinity ED, institution, or vessel: 21 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Alfred Atkins 7 Arthur Atkins 13 Caroline Atkins 36 Florence Atkins 9 James Atkins 2 Lilly Atkins 5 Stephen Atkins Thomas H. Atkins 39

Hi Just about to go out now. Here are the family in 1891 for reference Name: Edwin Arkin Age: 43 Estimated birth year: abt 1848 Relation: Head Spouse's name: Sarah Gender: Male Where born: Walcott, Staffordshire, England Civil parish: Basford Ecclesiastical parish: Old Basford St Leodegarins County/Island: Nottinghamshire Country: England Street address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: Education: Employment status: View image Registration district: Basford Sub-registration district: Basford ED, institution, or vessel: 7 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Edwin Arkin 43 Joseph Arkin 6 Lily Arkin 16 Mary Arkin 10 Robert Arkin 1 Sarah Arkin 45 Nothing has been staight forward with this lot!!!!!! Cheryl

are you sure on marriage date as he would have only been 16 can't see him with father Thomas can see one with William or Charles on the 1851 census Jeanette

Struggling to find Lily b1875 on 1881 census with those parents. Marriages Mar 1861 (>99%) Allen Louisa Nottingham 7b 282 Appleyard John Nottingham 7B 282 Atkins Edwin Nottingham 7b 282 Heard Sarah Nottingham 7b 282 If not found by the time you get back then could you post the address from the marriage certicate and the occupation of Edwin.

Hi Edwin Atkins married Sarah Heard in Mar 1861 in Nottinghamshire. Edwin was born c 1845 in Warwickshire Fathers name was Thomas Atkins both of them were Coal Miners. Not sure where Sarah was born but c 1845. No father listed on the marriage ceritifcate. I can't find them anywhere in 1861 First child I can find is Lily not born untill 1875. But there could be others before her that I don't know about. Any help would be appreciated. Got to go out soon so I will check when I come back Thanks Cheryl