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I'm trying...believe me I'm trying...to find a birth record on Ancestry but to no avail. On census and marriage record she is Emma Maria Coomber Nee Ball born about 1850 in Northampton, died 1900 Croydon Surrey but cannot find birth record. I'm dying to go to bed but refuse till I find it! Jen

Jen do you have her marriage certificate? If you do what was her fathers name? Georgina.

Thanks Georgina got those. But whixh one do I go for and how do I know?! Jen

Hi Jenny Did you see the Emma Ball born July/Aug/Sept 1850 Northampton? the reference is XV and (what looks to be )315

Maybe her birth reference is just Emma? Births Jun 1850 (>99%) Ball Emma Oundle 15 36[14] Births Sep 1850 (>99%) Ball Emma Northampton 15 315 Georgina.

She was Emma Maria by the time she married... Marriages Dec 1871 (>99%) Ball Emma Maria Northampton 3b 143 COOMBER Thomas Northampton 3b 143 Reynolds Sarah Harriett Northampton 3b 143 Swindall Samuel Northampton 3b 143 Georgina.

Yes I did Maggie thanks...there's a couple of Emma Balls about that time and in roughly the right place but just can't understand why o Census and and Marriage records she put Emma MARIA and there is nothing on birth record, just Emma. Perhaps I'm hoping for too much, if I am I've come to a full stop on this one. Thanks Jen

Yes I got those too. Thanks for looking Georgina, best get that marriage cert ordered eh? Jen

No Georgina I don't yet. Am going to order it tomorrow. Jen

1851 census... Name: Emma Ball Age: 8 Mo Estimated birth year: abt 1850 Relation: Daughter Father's name: Charles Mother's name: Eliza Gender: Female Where born: Northamptonshire, England Civil parish: Northampton St Sepulchre County/Island: Northamptonshire Country: England Street address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: Disability: View image Registration district: Northampton Sub-registration district: St Giles ED, institution, or vessel: 8e Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 10 Household Members: Name Age Charles Ball 38 Eliza Ball 42 Elizabeth Ball 10 Emma Ball 8 Mo George Ball 12 Henry Ball 5 Maryann Ball 8 William Ball 3 Eliza Farmer 17 --------------------------------------------------------------- Name: Emma Ball Age: 11 Mo Estimated birth year: abt 1850 Relation: Daughter Father's name: William Mother's name: Eliza Gender: Female Where born: Oundle, Northamptonshire, England Civil parish: Oundle County/Island: Northamptonshire Country: England Street address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: Disability: View image Registration district: Oundle Sub-registration district: Oundle ED, institution, or vessel: 14b Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 158 Household Members: Name Age Eliza Ball 26 Emma Ball 11 Mo John Ball 25 William Ball 28 Eliza Ward 17 Elizabeth Ward 19 These look like the 2 Emma's whose births I posted above. Georgina.

At least Catholics and perhaps others quite often added a forename when they were confirmed. I have no idea why or how widespread the custom was but do know that a number of my rellies added a name and they were not Catholic!! Clive

Birth registration wasn't compulsory until 1875......she may simply not be registered......... Reg