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Ann Greenfield (1825) married John Brown (abt. 1817) somewhere between 1841 and 1851. In 1851, the census places them in Wooton, Lincs and in 1861 they are in Hull. But cannot find the marriage. Any help from the assembled sleuths appreciated.

1851 just for info Name: Ann Brown Age: 26 Estimated birth year: abt 1825 Relation: Wife Spouse's name: John Gender: Female Where born: Thorne, Yorkshire, England Civil parish: Wootton County/Island: Lincolnshire Country: England Street address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: Disability: View image Registration district: Glanford Brigg Sub-registration district: Barton ED, institution, or vessel: 1 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 60 Household Members: Name Age Ann Brown 26 Ann Brown 1 Asher Brown 20 brother John Brown 34 Have you got the name of Greenfield from a birth cert. My grandmothers birth cert suggests her parents were married but they actually got married 14 years later

Hi Glitter :) This is the correct record. Yes, I am confident that Geenfield is correct both from my own research and corroborated by another person who did their research independently. It had occurred to me that they may have married subsequently and I spent several hours yesterday trawling Ancestry and Family Search dot org to no avail.

1861 Name: Ann Brown Age: 35 Estimated birth year: abt 1826 Relation: Head Gender: Female Where born: Thorn, Yorkshire, England Civil parish: Caistor Town: Caistor County/Island: Lincolnshire Country: England Street address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: View image Registration district: Caistor Sub-registration district: Caistor ED, institution, or vessel: 1 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 141 Household Members: Name Age Ann Brown 35 Ann Brown 12 Elizabeth Brown 7 John Brown 10 Martha Brown 4 Mary Brown 1 Not found them in Hull ?? 1871 Name: Ann Brown Age: 45 Estimated birth year: abt 1826 Relation: Wife Spouse's name: John Gender: Female Where born: Thorne, Yorkshire, England Civil parish: Caistor Town: Caistor County/Island: Lincolnshire Country: England Street address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: Disability: View image Registration district: Caistor Sub-registration district: Caistor ED, institution, or vessel: 1 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 16 Household Members: Name Age Ann Brown 45 John Brown 56 John Brown 19 Martha Brown 13 Peter Brown 2 Thomas Brown 5 Maureen

Caistor is correct. My mistake.

Is it possible she married before she married Mr Brown. There's this one: Marriages Sep 1837 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- BISCOMB Harriet Pontefract 22 225 BRADLEY Sarah Kingston on Hull 22 225 DIBB Hannah Eliza Kingston on Hull 22 225 *** GREENFIELD Charles Kingston on Hull 22 225 *** GRIME Ann Eliza Kingston on Hull 22 225 JOHNSON Thomas Kingston On Hull 22 225 MAJOR George Kingston on Hull 22 225 SHADLOCK Sarah Kingston on Hull 22 225 WILKINSON Alfred Kingston on Hull 22 225 On FreeBMD If you enter the surname in the usual top box and then put Ann* in the spouse forename box it comes up with a list of all Greenfield surnames with another Ann in the listings so you don't have to check through every Greenfield one. Of course it shows female Greenfields as well but you can ignore those. Could be a needle in a haystack though! Have you found her in 1841? Jill

Hi if you dont find the marriage you will have to one of the childrens birth certs that will give her maiden name..as you say it maybe a second marriage for Ann Good Luck Colette

Yes, there is a birth certificate which confirms mother's maiden name as Greenfield. It is possible that there was a previous marriage. However, the window would be rather small given that she was born in 1825 and her daughter Ann was born in 1849.

Not sure but was the legal age to marry only 12 for a girl and 14 for a boy. Might be wrong Maureen

You're right Glitter, the ages you say stood until I think 1921, so there was certainly time. Duncan

I did find this one earlier today but did not post it 1841 Name: Ann Greenfield Age: 15 Estimated birth year: abt 1826 Gender: Female Civil parish: Epworth Hundred: Manley (Western Division) County/Island: Lincolnshire Country: England Street address: Occupation: View image Registration district: Thorne Sub-registration district: Epworth Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Ann Greenfield 15

There is this marriage in Caistor:- Ann Greenfield June qtr, 1848, Caistor, XIV, 425 There is also a John Brown in the same qtr marrying in Caistor but unfortunately the page number is 477. Wonder if it's possible the number was mistranscribed. Not likely, I know, but worth checking. Kath. x

Maureen Thanks for that. The family originally came from Epworth so it is highly likely that is her. Looks like she is in the household of Cornelius Aldam (Adam?).

Kathleen many thanks .... that is interesting and worth investigating.