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Verification of birth - help plse?

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**Granny Bangles**

**Granny Bangles** Report 9 Jul 2007 16:06

Got g.parents mar. cert. The only Constance Archer in Leeds area I could find was Holbeck (Leeds) Got birth cert. it quotes a different father. Marriage cert says Samuel, birth cert says Walter Bedford Archer, could anyone please please give me a pointer as where to go from here? Also Want to find out if she re-married (divorced I think 1930's) can't find a remar. under Archer or Fox (her marr. name) any pointers on this one too plse. Got to go off for while back later this evening - thank you in advance.

Georgina

Georgina Report 9 Jul 2007 17:57

This is the marriage for Walter Bedford Archer, when was your grandmother born? Marriages Sep 1908 ARCHER Walter Bedford Bramley 9b 749 HARGREAVES Elizabeth Ann Bramley 9b 749 HARVEY Annie Lizzie Bramley 9b 749 MOORBY Thomas Bramley 9b 749 Georgina.

**Granny Bangles**

**Granny Bangles** Report 9 Jul 2007 18:05

Georgina Hi My g.mother Constance Archer stated 22 yrs on wedding cert to Fred Fox but birth cert states 15th May 1909, Marr. cert says father Samuel Archer Birt. cert says Walter Bedford Archer and mother Annie Lizzie Archer formerly Harvey. I had thought maybe she'd amended her age so as to get married without consent, she was expecting a baby and none of the witnesses on marr. cert are related to her they are my g.fathers brother and a friend. Thanks for helping me. Regards Jackie Sorry omitted that they were mar. 2nd Aug 1927, which would mean she was 18 yrs not 22 as m. cert states.

Georgina

Georgina Report 9 Jul 2007 18:17

Jackie is there an age on the marriage certificate or does it just say full? Georgina.

Georgina

Georgina Report 9 Jul 2007 18:31

Jackie my gut instinct is that you have the wrong birth certificate for Constance, I dont know the family history but could she have been born before her mother married and have been registered in her mothers maiden name? Georgina.

Angela now in Wilts (not North Devon)

Angela now in Wilts (not North Devon) Report 9 Jul 2007 18:31

Jackie Are you certain she was born in Yorkshire? I agree with Georgina, I think you probably have the wrong birth cert. What was Samuel's occupation on the marriage cert? Angela

Steph

Steph Report 9 Jul 2007 18:34

Presume your gmother is dead. Do you have a copy of the death certificate? That would show the date of birth. Steph

Georgina

Georgina Report 9 Jul 2007 18:45

It looks like the Constance Archer whose birth certificate you have for the 15/05/1909 never married, she is still constance Archer on her death reference... Name: Constance Archer Birth Date: 15 May 1909 Death Registration Month/Year: Dec 1988 Age at death (estimated): 79 Registration district: Claro Inferred County: North Yorkshire Volume: 2 Page: 2083 Georgina.

Georgina

Georgina Report 9 Jul 2007 18:50

Jackie on Constances marriage certificate her father is Samuel Archer, what was his occupation? Georgina.

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 9 Jul 2007 18:54

Do you know your grandmother's death date? Are either of these two her (if she was still called Fox): Constance Fox birth date 24 Apr 1904 Death Feb 1987 age 82 Keighley Yorkshire Constance Fox Birth date 26 Jul 1907 Death Oct 1999 age 92 Sheffield Yorkshire Kath. x

Judith

Judith Report 9 Jul 2007 18:56

How about one of these: Constance Archer Q1 1904 Alcaster 6d 767 Constance Archer Q4 1904 W Ham 4a 215 Constance May Archer Q4 1904 Walsingham 4b 269 Constance Minnie Archer Q1 1905 W Ham 4a 518 Constance Archer Q3 1905 Belper 7b 704 Constance Mary Archer Q4 1905 Reading 2c 335

**Granny Bangles**

**Granny Bangles** Report 9 Jul 2007 20:25

Hi Sorry so long in getting back. Constance Archer's father, Samuel was a Boiler Maker, have found him on 1901 as mar. but living alone. 1891 Census shows him m. and living with Annie and 4 children. Constance's age on m. cert. is 22 yrs so born c1905. No idea of death she left husband within few years of mar. 1931 ish. Would like to trace as much as poss. my dad can't find anything on her and would like to know if she remarried. How do you trace a death pls? Thanks for all your replies really, really appreciated. I too think from your info that I may have the wrong cert. of b.

**Granny Bangles**

**Granny Bangles** Report 9 Jul 2007 20:35

Hi Kath If one of the Constance Fox's is correct it's weird - I have the same d.o.b. but not the year - but it feels like it am pulling my hair out. No one to ask about Constance as she did a runner poss to London but no one knows if she remained there, I would just love to solve the mystery and dig back and forward. Ta for help Jackie xx