Genealogy Chat

Hi All, Look what happens when you turn your back to go for a bath. Well done with tracing Elizabeth Smith. The place names are Boverton and Llantwitmajor both in Mid Glamorgan, a few miles apart. I'll take some time to read through your replies and see where they take me. Many thanks to you all. Paul

Wonder if this is Elizabeth in 1851 - she's a little older than she should be but Boverton and Llantwit Major come up as places of birth on later censuses. Name: Elizabeth Smith Age: 9 Estimated birth year: abt 1842 Relation: Daughter Father's name: Anthony Mother's name: Sarah Gender: Female Where born: Baveston, Glamorgan, Wales (Boverton) Civil Parish or Township: Llantwit Major County/Island: Glamorgan Country: Wales Street address: View image Condition as to marriage: View image Occupation: View image Disability: View image Registration district: Bridgend Sub-registration district: Maesteg ED, institution, or vessel: 15a Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 3 Household Members: Name Age Anthony Smith 43 Tanner journeyman Anthony Smith 3 Elizabeth Smith 9 John Smith 16 Tanner apprentice Mary Ann Smith 19 Sarah Smith 42 Sarah Smith 14 William Sprague 67 lodger Tanner journeyman Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece: 2461; Folio: 425; Page: 11; GSU roll: 104206-104208. The eldest three Smiths are all born Bedminster, Somerset I wonder if the Sarah Williams who is visiting in 1871 is her sister - she is 5 years older and born Llantwit Not any help with her marriage but she is old enough to have been married before.

1851 census Name: Elizabeth Smith Age: 9 Estimated birth year: abt 1842 Relation: Daughter Father's name: Anthony Mother's name: Sarah Gender: Female Where born: Baveston, Glamorgan, Wales Civil Parish or Township: Llantwit Major County/Island: Glamorgan Country: Wales Street address: View image Condition as to marriage: View image Occupation: View image Disability: View image Registration district: Bridgend Sub-registration district: Maesteg ED, institution, or vessel: 15a Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 3 Household Members: Name Age Anthony Smith 43 Anthony Smith 3 Elizabeth Smith 9 John Smith 16 Mary Ann Smith 19 Sarah Smith 42 Sarah Smith 14 William Sprague 67 Lodger 1861 census Name: Elizabeth Smith Age: 18 Estimated birth year: abt 1843 Relation: Servant Gender: Female Where born: Llantwit Major, Glamorgan, Wales Civil Parish or Township: Gileston County/Island: Glamorgan Country: Wales Street address: View image Condition as to marriage: View image Education: View image Employment status: View image Occupation: View image Registration district: Bridgend Sub-registration district: Cowbridge ED, institution, or vessel: 3 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 2 Household Members: Name Age Charles Clark 17 John Davies 9 William Jenkin 20 Ann Llewellyn 17 John Llewellyn 74 Elizabeth Smith 18 Ann Spencer 55 Christopher Spencer 56 Gilead Spencer 20 Joseph Spencer 26 Mary Spencer 25 Thomas Spencer 18 1881 census Name: Elizabeth Grant Age: 33 Estimated birth year: abt 1848 Relation: Wife Spouse's name: Thomas Gender: Female Where born: Llantwitmajor, Glamorgan, Wales Civil parish: Llandaff County/Island: Glamorgan Country: Wales Street address: 8 Evans Terrace Condition as to marriage: Married Education: View image Employment status: View image Registration district: Cardiff Sub-registration district: Cardiff ED, institution, or vessel: 24 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age David Grant 4 Elizabeth Grant 33 Elizabeth Grant 12 Mary Jane Grant 8 Thomas Grant 34 Thomas Grant 6 William Grant 10 June x

Hi All, Don't despair. I have not been able to find them that's why I'm seeking help. Many thanks for all your time and effort on my behalf. Bye Paul

What a blinking name Elizabeth Smith thought mine were bad 'Jones' So Sorry Paul tried every which way but can't find Elizabeth marriage to Thomas Grant. Sorry again! Pamx

Hi, Here they are in the 1871 Wales census RG10; Piece: 5367; Folio: 71; Page: 23 Elizabeth Grant 30 Elizabeth Grant 2 Thomas Grant 29 William Grant 1 and in the 1881 Wales census RG11; Piece: 5282; Folio: 4; Page: 8 David Grant 4 Elizabeth Grant 33 Elizabeth Grant 12 Mary Jane Grant 8 Thomas Grant 34 Thomas Grant 6 William Grant 10 It's Mary Jane's birth certificate that I have where the mother is down as Elizabeth Grant formerly Smith. Cheer Paul

Hi, That's always a possibility but if she was born around say 1845 then that would make her 25-26 by the time the 1871 census took place. Her first child was born around 1869. It does look like it's her first marriage but as I said you cannot always be certain. Thanks Paul

Hi Pam, Many thanks for your reply and offer of help. Their ages change as you go through the census years. Thomas about 1843 and Elizabeth around 1848 although at times their ages are shown as only 1 year out. Once again many thanks for your time. Bye Paul

Paul when was Thomas or Elizabeths Birth year?i will have a look for you

Hi, If anyone could help find a marriage between Thomas Grant & Elizabeth Smith I would be grateful. In the 1871 census they are down as living in Comet St, Cardiff, man and wife including two children. RG10; Piece: 5367; Folio: 71; Page: 23 I have their daughters birth certificate for 1872 giving the same address and confirming the mothers maiden name as Smith. I just cannot find the marriage entry. Their first child was born in 1869 so possibly married around that date. Any help would be most appreciated. Thanks Paul