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Hi, I've been looking for my Irish ancestors for ages and today I had a new lead. I found the family on the 1861 census living in Liverpool and they also had a son that I didn't know existed. His name is John Tuft and he was b.1842 in Ireland. After finding him on the 1861 census I've lost him! Can't find him afterwards at all. It states he was a cooper. Can't see a death for him either. Also he had a sister Elizabeth and as I'm having trouble with this family and she was born in Liverpool I thought I could get her birth certificate and find out mothers maiden name. Can't find a birth for her either. Only one I can find is Guildford Surrey. Any suggestions on these please? Thanks Maisy

Could you add the census details on here for reference please.

Is this the Elizabeth in 1871? Name: Elizabeth Tuft Age: 22 Estimated birth year: abt 1849 Relation: Daughter Mother's name: Ann Gender: Female Where born: Liverpool, Lancashire, England Civil parish: Liverpool Ecclesiastical parish: St Aidans County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Registration district: Liverpool Sub-registration district: St Martin Household Members: Name Age Nicholas Baker 26 Michael Brady 28 Hugh Duggan 28 Ann Tuft 50 Elizabeth Tuft 22 Mary A Tuft 24

Yes that's the family on the 1871 census without John. On 1861 census the family is down as Taft! Name: John Taft Age: 50 Estimated birth year: abt 1811 Relation: Head Spouse's name: Ann Gender: Male Where born: Ireland Civil parish: Liverpool Ecclesiastical parish: St Aidan County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: View image Registration district: Liverpool Sub-registration district: St Martin ED, institution, or vessel: 55 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 69 Household Members: Name Age George Butterworth 23 Ann Taft 48 Elizabeth Taft 15 John Taft 50 John Taft 19 Mary A Taft 17

And 1861 Name: James Taft Age: 46 Estimated birth year: abt 1815 Relation: Head Spouse's name: Mary Gender: Male Where born: Ireland Civil parish: Liverpool Ecclesiastical parish: St Martin Town: Liverpool County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Registration district: Liverpool Sub-registration district: St Martin Household Members: Name Age Catherine Taft 11 James Taft 46 Mary Taft 40 Rosa Taft 7 Oh, sorry - different one!

Family search site gives this one - any good? John TOFT Household Male -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Information: Birth Year <1841> Birthplace Mayo County, Ireland Age 40 Occupation Dockside Laborer Marital Status M <Married> Head of Household John TOFT Relation Head -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Source Information: Dwelling 1 Joseph Place Collier St Census Place Kingston-upon-Hull, York, England Family History Library Film 1342152 Public Records Office Reference RG11 Piece / Folio 4769 / 25 Page Number 1

I do know the rest of the family stayed in Liverpool. How could I be sure he's the correct one?

Looked for a marriage for John Toft and Frances but didn't find one until 1878. Did find them on 1881 census on Ancestry so maybe I'll send off for this marriage and hope for the best. Thanks for your help Maisy

Sorry. I failed. If you send for a marriage certificate, stress it has to have the father as John. If you send for it from the register office, they'll return your money if it is the incorrect one.