Genealogy Chat

Hi All, Thanks for reading this - If you can help too I would be most most most appreciative. I am trying to find my grandfathers birth / marriage of even his existence, with no joy! He was born WILLIAM FAIRCLOUGH in April 1906 in the Liverpool area, we understnad he was one of the youngest of 22 children and that he possibly had twin siblings.... (possible names for siblings: Elsie, Kitty, George, Tommy (died as a baby) and Malcolm. All we know of his life is that he went in the army, he had two children called TOMMY and MARY but then split with thier mother and remarried my grandmother, althought there is no record of this marriage either..... I'm not sure which avenue to take now, I was hoping to find something of his parents and siblings on the 1901 census but I cant find anything..... Please could someone have a look? I would be most grateful Many Thanks

This is a possibility.........only that..........for his birth reg'n Name: William Fairclough Year of Registration: 1906 Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun DISTRICT: West Derby County: Lancashire Volume: 8b Page: 375 Reg

If I were you I would send for his birth certificate and that would give you the names to look for on the 1901 census, hopefully there would be some of his siblings on there if there were 22 of them. Have you searched the entire marriage index? Ann

Do you know when and where he died? What was the name of his second wife? When was the birth of eldest child of the second marriage? Reg

Hi His second wife was Gwendoline Smith. The birth of his eldest daughter (with Gwen) was 1945 Patricia and she was born in Surrey. I know most of the info from when he married Gwen (or rather got together shall we say) until he died aged 81 in 1988 in Essex. Its the information of his birth and his family that I'd like to tace. I've found a few William Faircloughs born around Liverpool around the time he was born, but how do you know which is him? Many Many Thanks to you all for helping

Any Ideas? Any other suggestions?

This would be the death reg'n.......... Name: William Fairclough Birth Date: 9 Apr 1906 Death Registration Month/Year: Sep 1988 Age at death (estimated): 82 Registration district: Thurrock Inferred County: Essex Volume: 9 Page: 2893 You could send for the birth cert for which I posted the refs..........quoting the actual DOB as a checking point. If it doesn't match, they won't send the cert, and will refund part of your payment. If it is the one, you will have the names of his parents to aid your search. Reg

I was referring to the birth cert........... Reg

Thanks Reg, That is his death definately. I doubt his death cert it will give the names of his parents though, my grandmothers didn't . . . . Not sure where to go from here, but thanks for trying.

Kim there is this family on the 1901 census & on the 1891 census they have twins but there dosen't look like 22 children maybe there were a lot of stillbirths? You would need his birth or marriage certificate to confirm his parents.. 1901 census... Name: Elsie M A Fairclough Age: 2 Estimated birth year: abt 1899 Relation: Daughter Father's name: William J Mother's name: Mary Gender: Female Where born: St Helens, Lancashire, England Civil parish: St Helen Ecclesiastical parish: St Helen and St John Town: St Helen County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: Education: Employment status: View image Registration district: Prescot Sub-registration district: St Helens ED, institution, or vessel: 52 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 125 Household Members: Name Age Ada Fairclough 14 Arthur Fairclough 10 Edward Fairclough 6 Elsie M A Fairclough 2 Ernest Fairclough 7 months Esther J Fairclough 9 Frank Fairclough 12 John W Fairclough 15 Mary Fairclough 41 Robert Fairclough 4 William J Fairclough 44 1891 census... Name: Frank Fairclough Age: 2 Estimated birth year: abt 1889 Relation: Son Father's name: Wm Jas Gender: Male Where born: Peasley Cross, Lancashire, England Civil parish: St Helens Ecclesiastical parish: St John Town: St Helens County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: Education: Employment status: View image Registration district: Prescot Sub-registration district: St Helens ED, institution, or vessel: 36 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Ada Fairclough 4 Annie Fairclough 7/12 Arthur Fairclough 7/12 Emma Fairclough 25 Frank Fairclough 2 John Wm Fairclough 5 Mary Fairclough 30 Thos Fairclough 8 Wm Jas Fairclough 33 Georgina.

Possible twins?...although dates are a bit close to the 1906 birth Births Sep 1905 Fairclough Margaret W.Derby 8b 253 Fairclough Thomas W.Derby 8b 253 Gwyn

Thanks Again, I think I will have to wait until the 1911 census release to find out anything further. Yes I could buy the Birth Cert but I have no way of knowing if it is the correct William Fairclough or not...... There has been research into his marriage to my nan but no results so no further leads to follow. Thanks for all your help anyway.

Kim, you DO have a way of knowing if its the correct birth certificate. As Reggie said earlier you can give the exact date of birth (as shown on his death entry) as a checking point. Good hunting Judith