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ArgyllGran
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7 Sep 2018 11:58 |
If Alice was indeed born 1879 in London -
These are the only three possibilities. Do you know if she had a middle name? Her marriage record doesn't state one.
ROBERTSON, ALICE MAUD mms EVANS GRO Reference: 1879 M Quarter in POPLAR Volume 01C Page 678
ROBERTSON, ALICE MAUD mms SPRAY GRO Reference: 1879 S Quarter in HOLBORN Volume 01B Page 758 >>>> (NO, her father was Benjamin)
ROBERTSON, ALICE CAROLINE mms CHUN GRO Reference: 1879 J Quarter in HOLBORN Volume 01B Page 786 >>>> (NO, her father was George)
Is this Alice's death? 1963, not 1964. Still no middle name, but at least she was still Tucker, so hadn't remarried.
Alice Tucker in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007 Name: Alice Tucker Death Age: 84 Birth Date: abt 1879 Registration Date: Dec 1963 Registration district: Edmonton Inferred County: Essex Volume: 5e Page: 385
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ArgyllGran
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7 Sep 2018 11:47 |
A possibility for George in 1939, which would imply they weren't together.
George is the last on the list of residents at 4 Manor Road, which should mean he was just a lodger, and not with a wife:
George H Tucker in the 1939 England and Wales Register Name: George H Tucker Gender: Male Marital Status: Married Birth Date: 21 Jun 1880 Residence Year: 1939 Address: 4 Manor Rd Residence Place: Hayes and Harlington, Middlesex, England Occupation: Bootmaker HeavyWorker Schedule Number: 199 Sub Schedule Number: 7 Enumeration District: BJCA Registration district: 127/2 Household Members: Name Florence Rudge Arthur T Rudge (4 closed records) George H Tucker
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ArgyllGran
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7 Sep 2018 11:33 |
Thanks, AnnMarieG. Do you know Alice's exact DOB?
So, for our reference:
Alice Turner in the 1911 England Census Name: Alice Turner Age in 1911: 31 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1880 Relation to Head: Wife Gender: Female Birth Place: London, United Kingdom Civil Parish: Stoke Newington County/Island: London Country: England Street address: 192 Boleyn Road, Stoke Newington, London N Marital Status: Married Years Married: 11 Estimated Marriage Year: 1900 Registration district: Hackney Registration District Number: 11 Sub-registration district: Stoke Newington ED, institution, or vessel: 18 Piece: 1022 Household Members: Name Age George Henry Turner 30 - Camberwell, boot maker & repairer Alice Turner 31 May Turner 9 Beaty Turner 6 Dolly Turner 4
For a rough idea of the time of year George was born:
Births Sep 1880 (>99%) Tucker George Henry Camberwell 1d 878
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AnnMarieG
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7 Sep 2018 08:56 |
ArgyllGran. I have the 1911 census and the name was transcribed wrong. It was stated as Turner but was the right family and they were living in stoke newington. I dont know if they were together as I dont know anything about my grandad since 1911.I know he was gassed in WW1 and was sent home from the war but that is all. i dont know when he died But Alice didnt die until 1964 in Essex
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ErikaH
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6 Sep 2018 23:59 |
Are you certain that Alice was alive in 1939.?
Where did she die?
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malyon
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6 Sep 2018 20:38 |
Alice Robertson England and Wales Census, 1891 Name: Alice Robertson Event Type: Census Event Date: 1891 County: London Parish: Putney Ecclesiastical Parish: ST MARY Registration District: Wandsworth Residence Note: Gwalior Road Gender: Female Age: 12 Occupation: Scholar Relationship to Head of Household: Daughter Birth Year (Estimated): 1879 Birthplace: Hammersmith, London, England Page Number: 23 Registration Number: RG12 Piece/Folio: 452/ 104 Household Role Sex Age Birthplace Thomas Robertson Head Male 34 London, England Alice M Robertson Wife Female 34 Islington, London, England Thomas Robertson Son Male 13 London, England Alice Robertson Daughter Female 12 Hammersmith, London, England Ernest Robertson Son Male 10 London, England Albert Robertson Son Male 6 Putney, London, England
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ArgyllGran
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6 Sep 2018 19:38 |
Do you know Alice's exact birthdate?
Do you mean that she and George were no longer together? If he had died, when was that?
Could she have remarried before 1939?
I don't even see them together in 1901 or 1911. Have you found them then, and where were they living?
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AnnMarieG
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6 Sep 2018 18:55 |
ArgyllGran, That is the right family ,thank you.
I perhaps didn't explain my query properly but the information I wanted was where my Nan (Alice Tucker) was living in 1939.
A long lost cousin has recently been in touch (which is great) and we are trying to put together where people lived in 1939.
George Tucker (bootmaker) was my great granddad.
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ArgyllGran
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6 Sep 2018 18:50 |
Even with that info, George and Alice are not springing to the eye in 1939, at least not together.
Are you sure they were both still alive in 1939?
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ArgyllGran
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6 Sep 2018 18:38 |
Several siblings of that George were also baptised 6/11/ 1887 -
Annie Sevend; Constance Beatrice; Rose Gertrude; Florence Edith.
The father George William was a shoemaker.
So this is George with his family in 1891:
George Tucker in the 1891 England Census Name: George Tucker Gender: Male Age: 11 Relationship: Son Birth Year: 1880 Father: George Tucker Mother: Selina Tucker Birth Place: Camberwell, London, England Civil Parish: Camberwell Residence Place: Camberwell, London, England Sub registration district: St George ED, Institution or Vessel: 29 Neighbors: Piece: 493 Folio: 67 Household Members: Name Age George Tucker 43 - bootmaker Selina Tucker 41 Florence Tucker 13 George Tucker 11 Rose Tucker 8 Constance Tucker 7 Annie Tucker 5 Jessie Tucker 2
TUCKER, GEORGE HENRY mms COOK GRO Reference: 1880 S Quarter in CAMBERWELL Volume 01D Page 878
Parents' marriage:
Marriages Dec 1870 (>99%) COOKE Sevena Lambeth 1d 640 TUCKER George William Lambeth 1d 640
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ArgyllGran
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6 Sep 2018 18:08 |
Same DOB as the George Henry tucker who was baptised in Southwark, as posted by Maddie - but different middle initial - and different wife.
George J Tucker in the 1939 England and Wales Register Name: George J Tucker Gender: Male Marital Status: Married Birth Date: 6 Nov 1887 Residence Year: 1939 Address: 131 Residence Place: Poplar, London, England Occupation: Key & Drum Maker Schedule Number: 191 Sub Schedule Number: 1 Enumeration District: AQQG Registration district: 19/2 Inferred Spouse: Margaret L Tucker Inferred Children: Eileen M Tucker Patricia K Tucker Household Members: Name George J Tucker Margaret L Tucker 16/12/1887 Eileen M Tucker 10/02/1913 Patricia K Tucker 17/03/1919
Ah, but just realised - 6/11/1887 was your George's baptism date, not DOB.
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AnnMarieG
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6 Sep 2018 16:54 |
Malyon they did have children but were all married by 1939.
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malyon
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6 Sep 2018 15:18 |
is that the leslie in the 1939 reg posted by maddie did your george and alice have children
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AnnMarieG
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6 Sep 2018 14:25 |
Malyon, no Leslie in this family. :(
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malyon
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6 Sep 2018 14:22 |
this must be the leslie g tucker in 1939 reg
Births Jun 1921 (>99%) Tucker Leslie G Fry Bristol 6a 342
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AnnMarieG
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6 Sep 2018 14:16 |
Hi Maddie, the first one not her, but the second one is. Hi Malyon, Yes thats them.
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malyon
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6 Sep 2018 14:00 |
this is the marriage
George Henry Tucker England Marriages, 1538–1973 Name: George Henry Tucker Spouse's Name: Alice Robertson Event Date: 24 Dec 1899 Event Place: St Stephens Church, Walworth, Surrey, England Father's Name: George William Tucker Spouse's Father's Name: Thomas Robertson
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Maddie
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6 Sep 2018 13:58 |
?????????? Tucker Household (5 People) Green Lancer , Stoke Newington, London, England
First name(s) Last name(s) DOB Sex Occupation Marital status Schedule Schedule Sub Number George H Tucker 15 Apr 1883 Male ??? Married 44 1 Alice Tucker 08 Jul 1884 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 44 2 Leslie G Tucker 15 Apr 1921 Male Capstan Operator Single 44 3 Frederick Marggraf 18 Jan 1877 Male For Cutter Single 44 4 Frank J Scevity 24 Jun 1888 Male Doch Labourer Heavy Single 44 5
different birth year so maybe not
is this the marriage
George Henry Last name Tucker Name note - Marriage year 1899 Marriage date 24 Dec 1899 Marriage place Walworth Father's first name(s) George William Father's last name Tucker Spouse's first name(s) Alice Spouse's last name Robertson Spouse's father's first name(s) Thomas Spouse's father's last name Robertson County Surrey Country England Record set England Marriages 1538-1973
for dob Name: George Henry Tucker Gender: Male Record Type: Baptism Baptism Date: 6 Nov 1887 Baptism Place: Camberwell St Philip the Apostle, Southwark, England Father: George William Tucker Mother: Sevend Annie Tucker
gives dob Name: George Henry Tucker Gender: Male Marriage Age: 21 Record Type: Marriage Birth Date: abt 1878 Marriage Date: 24 Dec 1899 Marriage Place: Walworth Common, Southwark, England Father: George William Tucker Spouse: Alice Robertson Register Type: Parish Register
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AnnMarieG
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6 Sep 2018 13:28 |
Please would someone be able to look up the 1939 register for me for Alice Tucker, born 1879 married George Henry Tucker 24.12 1899 Believed to be somewhere in London. many thanks in advance.
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