It's the blooming Pavey family again. I can't find a birth registration for the following anywhere:
William Pavey born 1882 Egham, Surrey Edith Pavey born 1886 Patcham, Brighton Lydia Pavey born 1889 Falmer, sussex.
Can anyone see if they can find them please. Have looked on FMP, Freebmd, Ancestry. Don't know where to go next. Many thanks to anyone who tries to help. Phyll
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Were the parents definitely married? Thanks
Added: Marriages Dec 1888 MAPHAM Florence Lewes 2b 371 Pavey William Lewes 2b 371
1891 England Census William Pavey Age: 56 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1835 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Florence Pavey Gender: Male Where born: Rotherfield, Sussex, England Civil parish: Falmer Ecclesiastical parish: Falmer Town: Falmer County/Island: Sussex Country: England Registration district: Lewes Sub-registration district: Rottingdean ED, institution, or vessel: 3 Piece: 801 Folio: 43 Page Number: 15
William Pavey 56 Florence Pavey 28 William Pavey 9 Edith Pavey 5 Lydia Pavey 2 Florence Pavey 1 Ella Pavey 3/12 Emma Collin 56 Agnes Budd 13
Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 801; Folio 43; Page 15; GSU roll: 6095911.
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Looks like parents only married in 1888
Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Marriages Dec 1888 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- MAPHAM Florence Lewes 2b 371 Pavey William Lewes 2b 371
Possible for Lydia
England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915 about Lydia Mapham Name: Lydia Mapham Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1888 Registration district: Lewes Inferred County: Sussex Volume: 2b
Andy
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1891 Census for William:
Records1891 Census Household Record Address Hodshrove Farm, Lewes Road Parish Falmer District Lewes, Rottingdean Administrative County Sussex Householder 1 Name William Pavey Age 56 Estimated Year of Birth 1835 Relationship to Head of Household Head Occupation Dealer & Farmer Birth Place Rotherfield Birth County Sussex Householder 2 Name Florence Pavey Age 28 Estimated Year of Birth 1863 Relationship to Head of Household Wife Occupation Birth Place Egham Birth County Sussex Householder 3 Name William Pavey Age 9 Estimated Year of Birth 1882 Relationship to Head of Household Son Occupation Juvenile Birth Place Egham Birth County Sussex Householder 4 Name Edith Pavey Age 5 Estimated Year of Birth 1886 Relationship to Head of Household Daughter Occupation Juvenile Birth Place Patcham Birth County Sussex Householder 5 Name Lydia Pavey Age 2 Estimated Year of Birth 1889 Relationship to Head of Household Daughter Occupation Juvenile Birth Place Falmer Birth County Sussex Householder 6 Name Florence Pavey Age 1 Estimated Year of Birth 1890 Relationship to Head of Household Daughter Occupation Juvenile Birth Place Falmer Birth County Sussex Householder 7 Name Ella Pavey Age 0 Estimated Year of Birth 1891 Relationship to Head of Household Daughter Occupation Juvenile Birth Place Falmer Birth County Sussex Householder 8 Name Emma Collin Age 56 Estimated Year of Birth 1835 Relationship to Head of Household Visitor Occupation Birth Place Egham Birth County Sussex Householder 9 Name Agnes Budd Age 13 Estimated Year of Birth 1878 Relationship to Head of Household Visitor Occupation Juvenile Birth Place Bramshott Birth County Hampshire
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A vague possibility Births Dec 1881 MAPHAN William James Windsor 2c 438
Similarly, a possible Births Mar 1886 MAPHAM Edith Alice Steyning 2b 200
And: Births Dec 1888 MAPHAM Lydia Lewes 2b 205
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Ella's birth:
Birth Record Name Ella Pavey Year of Registration 1891 Quarter of Registration Jan-Feb-Mar Registration District Lewes Registration County Sussex Mother's maiden name Volume Number 2B Volume Page 199
and Florence:
Birth Record Name Florence Pavey Year of Registration 1889 Quarter of Registration Oct-Nov-Dec Registration District Lewes Registration County Sussex Mother's maiden name Volume Number 2B Volume Page 193
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Lydia: Birth Record Name Lydia Mapham Year of Registration 1888 Quarter of Registration Oct-Nov-Dec Registration District Lewes Registration County Sussex Mother's maiden name Volume Number 2B Volume Page 205
and Edith: Birth Record Name Edith Alice Mapham Year of Registration 1886 Quarter of Registration Jan-Feb-Mar Registration District Steyning Registration County Sussex Mother's maiden name Volume Number 2B Volume Page 290
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Mother's birth?
Birth Record Name Florence Mapham Year of Registration 1863 Quarter of Registration Oct-Nov-Dec Registration District Windsor Registration County Berkshire Mother's maiden name Volume Number 2C Volume Page 421
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A great big THANK YOU to you all for this wonderful help. The reason I had difficulty was that the father of the first 2 children was married to a Lydia Mapham at the time of their birth. She died in 1887 and he married Lydia's niece Florence who had been living with them for some time. But rumour has it that there was a bit of scandal in the family and now I think maybe, William the father was a naughty boy with the niece, hence the children being registered under the name of Mapham. Will check out the birth records and maybe get certificates of at least 1 to confirm the Mother Once again many thanks and I will try to let you know the outcome and what I find. Best wishes Phyll
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