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Hi, I have located an ancestor in the 1861 census in England - Alfred Soupre it appears to be a ship's log with Marines, visitors everyone on board" Would this be a particular ship? The Reference number at the bottom is RG9-4441
ALl of the boys on it appear to be around 17-19 years old, so maybe it was a training school for the marines or something? (there are no other people ) Can anyone help me out here. HE is from the Channel ISlands but there are boys from all over England and Ireland on the census page. Thank you
Janet

Hi Janet

google St Jean d Acre you can find out about the ship.

cheers Annabel

Annabel, that was amazing! How did you do it? Also, now that I know he was on the St Jean d Acre, do you have any idea where I could find more records on him in the Navy... he might have had a distinguished career - more likely in the brig with my lot!
Thanks again

I just found his Navy record! this is wonderful. No medals, but he didn't die onboard either!

1861 England Census
Name: Alfred Soupre
Age: 17
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1844
Relation [Rank]: B 1 C
Gender: Male
Where born: Iales, Jersey, Channel Islands [Jersey Isles B.S.]
Condition as to marriage: Single

Civil parish: Vessels
Town: [Anchored in] Cadiz Bay
County/Island: Royal Navy
Country: England
Registration district: Royal Navy
Sub-registration district: Royal Navy
ED, institution, or vessel: St Jean d Acre

Source Citation: Class: RG9; Piece: 4441; Folio: 144; Page: 5; GSU roll: 543284.


He is listed amongst the supernumaries taking passage to other ships.
I guess B 1 C is Boy 1st class.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMS_St_Jean_d%27Acre_%281853%29

International Genealogical Index - British Isles
2. Adolphe Pierre Soupre - International Genealogical Index / BI
Gender: Male Birth: About 1815 , Jersey, Channel Islands

3. Adolphe Pierre Soupre - International Genealogical Index / BI
Gender: Male Birth: About 1815 , Jersey, Channel Islands

4. Mrs Adolphe Pierre Soupre - International Genealogical Index / BI
Gender: Female Birth: About 1820 , Jersey, Channel Islands

5. Mrs Adolphe Pierre Soupre - International Genealogical Index / BI
Gender: Female Birth: About 1820 , Jersey, Channel Islands

6. Elvina Amelie Soupre - International Genealogical Index / BI
Gender: Female Christening: 09 APR 1841 X, , Jersey, Channel Islands

7. Elvina Amelie Soupre - International Genealogical Index / BI
Gender: Female Christening: 09 APR 1841

Matches: International Genealogical Index/British Isles - 6

oh dear!! 1881

Ann SNELLING Inmate M Female 61 England
Mary J. MASSON Inmate M Female 53 Guernsey, Channel Islands Seamstress
John CHILCOTT Inmate M Male 64 England Tailor
John WAKEHAM Inmate M Male 47 England Labourer
William ELLETT Inmate M Male 38 England Barber
Mrs BATTERS Inmate M Female 71 England Ladies Companion
Ann NOONAN Inmate U Female 23 Ireland Domestic Servant
Ann BARNINGHAM Inmate M Female 53 Ireland Charwoman
Adolphus SOUPRE Inmate U Male 44 St Helier, Jersey, Channel Islands
John HAMON Inmate U Male 57 St Helier, Jersey, Channel Islands
Celeste GOUBIN Inmate U Female 52 St Helier, Jersey, Channel Islands Tailoress
David NORMAN Inmate U Male 65 St Helier, Jersey, Channel Islands Soldier
Poppy HUMBY Inmate U Female 21 St Helier, Jersey, Channel Islands
Jane NICOLLE Inmate M Female 44 St Helier, Jersey, Channel Islands
Elvina NORMAN Inmate W Female 34 St Helier, Jersey, Channel Islands Seamstress
Elizabeth A. BOREHAM Inmate W Female 68 St Helier, Jersey, Channel Islands Cook Domestic Servant
Henry HELLYER Inmate U Male 41 St Helier, Jersey, Channel Islands
Elizabeth WHITEMAN Inmate U Female 40 St Helier, Jersey, Channel Islands
Caroline DOCLE Inmate U Female 54 St Helier, Jersey, Channel Islands
Sarah PARROT Inmate U Female 42 St Helier, Jersey, Channel Islands
(Continued)


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Source Information:
Institution "Jersey Lunatic Asylum" St Saviour
Census Place St Saviour, Jersey, Channel Islands
Family History Library Film 1342350
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 5617 / 87
Page Number 4

Yes, I guess we all have them on our trees!
Thank you so much ladies, you have been wonderful. I put this question on the tip site because I didn't know how to find the ship - I have alot more problems with the SOupre/ Harvey family. I have a thread up on trying to find, under William Harvey and Anne Read ? I would really appreciate it if someone would read it and tell me if they think the family on the census and the family on the ship manifest are the same family. Thanks

Alfred Amy Soupre was baptised in St Helier, 28/4/1844, his date of birth was 15/4/1844 - parents Jean Adolphe Soupre and Eliza Jane Amy. His father was a merchant and the parents stood as godparents.

Siblings showing in the baptism register were
Eugenie Marie dob 10/3/1846 gp Father and Mary Amy
Eliza Adeline dob 16/3/1849 gp Father and Caroline Suzanne Amy

The older 2 siblings were born too early to be included in the on-line registers, but I would guess that the Adolphus who Anne found in St Saviour's Hospital in 1881 is Pierre Adolphe, both born 1837, who can be found with the family in 1851. Soupre is not a common name here.

Emma Soupre gave birth to an illegitimate son, Edgar, 23/6/1870.