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ggrandma Alice Drysdale b 1840 married Jacob Carr in Birkenhead in 1861
she stated he father's name as Romeo Drysdale a joiner.
I have found several Romeo Drysdales but none that fit the dates.
Any advice where I should look please as I can't find a likely Romeo in the census returns.
Any direction appreciated.
Jill

The one witness was R.Drysdale so could be one of the other Romeos I found

When and where was Alice born?

Have you found her on any census?

There is this marriage for a Romeo Drysdale which could be a possibility:-

Name: Romeo Drysdale
Gender: Male
Spouse's name: Elizabeth Bolshaw
Marriage Date: 6 Mar 1831
Marriage Place: Liverpool, Lancashire, England

Kath. x

This could be her birth as I see from the census she was born in Cheshire.

This will give her mother's name and help to find her parents marriage.

Births Mar 1840
Drysdale Alice Wirral 19 323

Christine

1861 England Census
about Elij Drysdell Name: Elij Drysdell
Age: 56
Estimated birth year: abt 1805
Relation: Mother
Gender: Female
Where born: Littlewitch, Cheshire, England

Civil parish: Everton
Ecclesiastical parish: St Chrysostom
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View image

Registration district: West Derby
Sub-registration district: Everton
ED, institution, or vessel: 24
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 222
Household Members: Name Age
Alice Carr 21
Elij Drysdell 56
Roberts Drysdell 23

Here's the 1871, Alice is also in the household, husband at sea.


1871 England Census
about Elizabeth Drysdale
Name: Elizabeth Drysdale
Age: 68
Estimated birth year: abt 1803
Relation: Mother
Gender: Female
Where born: Wenr, Shropshire, England
Civil parish: Everton
Ecclesiastical parish: St George
Town: Liverpool
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Registration district: West Derby
Sub-registration district: Toxteth Park
ED, institution, or vessel: 53
Household schedule number: 70
Household Members:
Name Age
Elizabeth Drysdale 68
Elizabeth E Carr 6
Constantine Carr 5
Isabella Carr 3
Fanny Carr 1 Year, 3 Months
Jacob Carr 1 Month

Christine

Thanks so much for all that help.
I think the 1831 marriage is the one as Elizabeth Drysdale is living with Alice in the 1861 census. and Jacob carr was a ships steward so he was away from home. So Romeo must have died before 1861 but I haven't seen his death.
I'm sure the bith in cheshire is the right one so I shall be sending for that cert.
Thanks SO much for this leg up - I was really wondering what had happened - although it didn't say "deceased" on Alice's wedding cert. and they married in Jan 1861.
I was wondering if the R.Drysdale witness on the marriage cert was a brother called romeo as there was one born abt 1847
Thanks again
Jill

I've only just realised Christine that grandma Isabella is in the 1871 age 3. She died in childbirth having dad in 1902
thanks again for making me look closer at info and read it more than once.
Jillx

This could be her brothers baptism;

England & Wales Christening Records, 1530-1906 about Robert Drysdale
Name: Robert Drysdale
Gender: Male
Birth Date: abt 1834
Christening Date: 16 Feb 1834
Christening Place: Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Father's Name: Romes Drysdale
Mother's Name: Elizabeth


Dee x

Thanks Dee and Kath, Christine and Glitterbaby and Tania
I feel as if I am moving a bit now.
Jill

Brothers marriage;


Groom's Name: Robert Drysdale
Groom's Birth Date:
Groom's Birthplace:
Groom's Age:
Bride's Name: Lydia Simmis
Bride's Birth Date:
Bride's Birthplace:
Bride's Age:
Marriage Date: 22 Dec 1861
Marriage Place: Liverpool Parish, Lancashire, England
Groom's Father's Name: Rome Drysdale
Groom's Mother's Name:
Bride's Father's Name: Job Simmis
Bride's Mother's Name:
Groom's Race:
Groom's Marital Status: Single
Groom's Previous Wife's Name:
Bride's Race:
Bride's Marital Status: Single
Bride's Previous Husband's Name:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M01519-4
System Origin: England-EASy
Source Film Number: 93929
Reference Number: bk42, p95, item 189
Collection: England Marriages, 1538–1973



Dee x

There is this Drysdale death registered in West Derby that has no forename given so is a possible for Romeo, although I don't know how much detail would be on the certificate:-

Name: Male Drysdale
Year of Registration: 1861
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
District: West Derby
County: Lancashire
Volume: 8b
Page: 258

Kath. x

Alices baptism;


Name: Alice Drysdale
Gender: Female
Event Type: Christening
Birth Date:
Christening Date: 19 Apr 1840
Marriage Date:
Banns Date:
Death Date:
Burial Date:
Event Date:
Birthplace:
Christening Place: Wallasey, Cheshire, England
Marriage Place:
Banns Place:
Death Place:
Burial Place:
Event Place:
Father's Name: Romeo Drysdale
Mother's Name: Elizabeth
Principal's Marital Status:
Principal's Residence: St. Hillary, Wallasey, Cheshire, England
Spouse's Name:
Spouse's Marital Status:
Spouse's Residence:
Spouse's Father:
Spouse's Mother:
Age:
Image Number: 678
Digital Folder Number: 4011917
Film Number: 1836285
Collection: England, Cheshire Bishop's Transcripts, 1598-1900


Dee x

Ummm.............. did Romeo have a sunday name???


Name: Alice Drysdale
Gender: Female
Baptism/Christening Date: 19 Apr 1840
Baptism/Christening Place: St Hillary�S Church, Wallasey, Cheshire, England
Birth Date:
Birthplace:
Death Date:
Name Note:
Race:
Father's Name: Thomas Drysdale
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Elizabeth
Mother's Birthplace:
Mother's Age:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C74944-0
System Origin: England-ODM
Source Film Number: 1737059
Reference Number:
Collection: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975


Same record as posted above!!!!

I can't reconcile that one!
Slip of the tongue?
Slip of the pen?
Where would I find those records, Dee - I must learn to do it myself instead of wallowing around and then begging for help.
THanks
Jill

Hi Jill,

I use this site from family Search;

http://pilot.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#p=home


Dee x

Thanks for that.
I did find a death for Romeo Drysdale in West Derby (correct area for family) in 1863.
How odd though that Elizabeth Drysdaledescribed herself as widow in the 1861 census??
Jill

Dee, that is one of the best tips I've had!
Thanks
Jill

From Lancs OPC..


Marriage: 6 Mar 1831 StMichael in the Hamlet, Aigburth, Lancashire, England
Romeo Drysdale - Bachelor of Walton on the Hill
Elizabeth Bolshaw - Spinster of Walton on the Hill
Witness: John Ackers; Harriet Ackers
Married by Banns by: Wm. Hesketh A. M.
Register: Marriages 1815 - 1834, Page 65, Entry 194
Source: LDS Film 2147881



Nicky

Thanks a lot Nicky,
Sorry I had to go last night and today is my busy day.
I do appreciate your input.
Jill