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LDS pilot site query

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brummiejan

brummiejan Report 2 Aug 2010 23:36

Quick query please!
I have used this, but to ask a dumb question - apart from appearance what is the difference to the original site?
Thanks
Jan

Thelma

Thelma Report 3 Aug 2010 00:03

It is parish records only whereas the IGI has submitted records as well.
I guess they thought a fresh start was the best way forward.

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 3 Aug 2010 00:06

Thanks Satnav!
Jan

Peter

Peter Report 3 Aug 2010 00:32

Yes, they do need a fresh start as the submitted results are hopeless. However, the results from a test search were not encouraging: for baptisms they have omitted the parish names and merely given the county. Do the transcribers know nothing about Britain?

Peter

Madmeg

Madmeg Report 3 Aug 2010 02:31

And can anyone tell me if there is any difference between these and the Beta site:

http://fsbeta.familysearch.org/

EDIT - that IS the same site, is it? I thought there were two of them. Am I just a noddy?

Bren from Oldham

Bren from Oldham Report 3 Aug 2010 14:08

The site covers civil registrations as well as parish records
I have found civil registrations for my fathers and siblings births on there as well as others for my grandmothers 2 brothers and their families in the Channel Islands giving the town they were born in but no addresses
When I looked at the LDS film that contained what I thought would be the baptisms of the two brothers I was mistaken. It proved to be the civil registration and their names and address which I already knew

Pam

Pam Report 3 Aug 2010 15:43

The new beta site is for the information they are currently scanning and I believe eventually this should take over from the existing Familysearch site.

Gai

Gai Report 4 Aug 2010 06:51

Hi Madmeg,

I have found on the Beta site some images of newspaper cuttings which aren't available on the normal Lds site.

Gai

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 4 Aug 2010 08:45

Hi again Just popped back for a look and I see you've all been busy! Thanks for the replies & info everyone.
Jan

Joy

Joy Report 4 Aug 2010 08:51

I must just say that some submitted entries are bona fide as I have discovered with great pleasure, and some submitters do live in the UK :-)

MarkMorgan

MarkMorgan Report 4 Aug 2010 12:03

SatNav, the LDS only own a copy of the 1881 census transcription which they did so they are linking through to FindMyPast for the other census records. I think the 1881 census links through too to get the images. I have seen these come up on both pilot and beta and I can't see the difference between the two sites.

I haven't seen any footnote.com links as yet - what sort of information do they contain?

Mark.

MarkMorgan

MarkMorgan Report 4 Aug 2010 12:33

I know what you mean but being a non-profit organisation they probably can't afford to buy all the censuses and transcribe them all themselves.

Maybe they should do a deal with Ancestry and The Genealogist too so that when you click through for an image you could select the one that links to the site where you have a subscription.

Mark.

Pam

Pam Report 4 Aug 2010 20:57

FamilySearch is looking for volunteers to transcribe for them.

www.familysearch.org/eng/indexing/frameset_indexing.asp

mgnv

mgnv Report 5 Aug 2010 09:16

There's a large egree of overlap between the beta & pilot sites, but they're not the same and neither is a subset of the other. As far as England/UK is concerned, the beta lacks 3 collections the pilot has:

England, Diocese of Durham Bishops' Transcriptions ca,1700-1900 (images only)
England, Norfolk Parish Registers, 1538-1900
England, Cornwall Parish Registers, 1538-1900

The pilot lacks:
England, Warwickshire Parish Registers, 1538-1900
which the beta has.

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 5 Aug 2010 09:23

Now that's useful to know for me re. Warwickshire as a lot of my ancestors are from there - thanks for that snippet mgnv.
Jan

mgnv

mgnv Report 5 Aug 2010 19:53

Jan - A bit off-topic, but are you familiar with the local BMD indices online

Staffs (some mum's MS and age at death back to 1837):
http://www.staffordshirebmd.org.uk/

Walsall, Dudley, Sandwell/West Bromwich:
http://www.westmidlandsbmd.org.uk/

Warwick
http://www.warwickshire.gov.uk/Web/corporate/pages.nsf/Pages%20by%20Department/1057E57E886DA0228025738500453B29

http://www.birmingham.gov.uk/registeroffice
Slightly different is Birmingham RO, who say:
Where ever possible for family tree research, we will provide a digital scan of the original register entry.
Also, they don't have an online local index, but say they'll accept the GRO index ref. I presume they have in-house cheat sheets, so if the GRO entries for Birmingham cover pages 201-320, they know the entries for All Saints begin on 201, Ladywood on 212,... St. Thomas on 307 or somesuch, thus they can take the GRO ref, and know which sub-district register has the entry of interest - but I'm only guessing.

Renes

Renes Report 5 Aug 2010 20:03

Thanks all - I have been wanting to know about Familysearch Pilot and Beta search for a while

Now I understand

Irene

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 5 Aug 2010 20:16

Thanks mgnv. My own family have no Staffs connections, but my husband's come from the current Sandwell area, so will take a look at that.
Cheers.
Jan