Genealogy Chat
Welcome to the Genes Reunited community boards!
- The Genes Reunited community is made up of millions of people with similar interests. Discover your family history and make life long friends along the way.
- You will find a close knit but welcoming group of keen genealogists all prepared to offer advice and help to new members.
- And it's not all serious business. The boards are often a place to relax and be entertained by all kinds of subjects.
- The Genes community will go out of their way to help you, so don’t be shy about asking for help.
Quick Search
Single word search
Icons
- New posts
- No new posts
- Thread closed
- Stickied, new posts
- Stickied, no new posts
Unregistered birth?
Profile | Posted by | Options | Post Date |
---|---|---|---|
|
Jill 2011 (aka Warrior Princess of Cilla!) | Report | 28 Jun 2010 12:45 |
His DOB was probably on his war records. |
|||
Researching: |
|||
|
Gael | Report | 28 Jun 2010 13:17 |
Had you looked in this site for Albert ? |
|||
|
Madmeg | Report | 28 Jun 2010 20:01 |
Janet, you may well have all the information you need about John Key, but those of us trying to help you don't have. |
|||
|
Madmeg | Report | 28 Jun 2010 20:09 |
Marriages Mar 1887 (>99%) |
|||
|
Nickydownsouth | Report | 28 Jun 2010 20:19 |
So is this the entry for "sister" Ellen Key nee Pattinson who Albert went to join in New Zealand? |
|||
Researching: |
|||
|
Janet | Report | 28 Jun 2010 20:28 |
Thank you Nicky, I have all that information. It was actually Albert's other "sister" (Annie, possibly his birth mother) he came to join, she had been living in NZ for some time. |
|||
|
Nickydownsouth | Report | 28 Jun 2010 20:32 |
Right I`m getting confused now..... |
|||
Researching: |
|||
|
Janet | Report | 28 Jun 2010 20:33 |
I got Albert's date of birth from his now deceased son and it is on his army records. I also have his marriage certificate. His son also had the details of the ship and date he supposedly came to NZ, but I haven't been able to tie in the dates. All a bit of a mystery! Thank you all for your help. |
|||
|
Madmeg | Report | 28 Jun 2010 20:33 |
I am now spending a lot of time floundering in the dark for the Key family, and for Annie, Ellen and Hannah Pattinson. |
|||
|
Nickydownsouth | Report | 28 Jun 2010 20:37 |
Right got him in 1891..with "mother Hannah" in Whitehaven Cumbria.. |
|||
Researching: |
|||
|
Nickydownsouth | Report | 28 Jun 2010 20:42 |
Janet could you please give us all the information you have on Albert. especially if you have his arrival in New Zealand......I would be dubious about exact date of birth coming from his son, people often don`t know the exact date of birth of their parents and can sometimes be out by quite a bit. |
|||
Researching: |
|||
|
Madmeg | Report | 28 Jun 2010 20:45 |
And therefore: |
|||
|
Nickydownsouth | Report | 28 Jun 2010 20:50 |
Hannahs death in 1901..... |
|||
Researching: |
|||
|
Nickydownsouth | Report | 28 Jun 2010 21:00 |
Think this may be Annie with her father in 1881...so she wasn`t in New Zealand then... |
|||
Researching: |
|||
|
SylviaInCanada | Report | 28 Jun 2010 21:31 |
...... and what about that EDWARD ALLINSON whose birth registration I found registered in Whitehaven, and posted at about 1:00 am UK time this morning?? |
|||
Researching: |
|||
|
Madmeg | Report | 28 Jun 2010 21:35 |
Oh, Sylvia, were you thinking he was Pattinson? I did see it and wondered. |
|||
|
Janet | Report | 28 Jun 2010 21:59 |
Thank you all for your comments. I appreciate the help you are giving, but to be honest, you are doubling up on what I have. I will give a quck precis: Hannah and Dan Pattinson were married around 1870. They had Ellen (b. 1871) and Annie (b.1873). Ellen married James Key in 1887 in Leeds and John was born the same year in Thirsk (30.6.87). I have ongoing information about John and James and am not interested in going any further. Ellen left James and John and went back to Whitehaven. She gave birth to my grandmother, Hannah in 1892. That is a different story and I have researched that. Annie married in UK and came to NZ in the 1890s, I have that information,b ut it is not totally relevant at this stage. I have wondered over the years if it was possible that Ellen gave birth to twins, John and Albert and only registered John? Albert was brought up as the son of Hannah and Dan, but Dan was dead well before Albert was born! As noted, Albert's birth date could have been "made up", it was only a few months after John's. Food for thought? Thank you all again, but please don't go into too much history of this family. Is it possible to search baptism records? |
|||
|
Janet | Report | 28 Jun 2010 22:01 |
Madmeg - please do not spend anymore time floundering! Thank you for your help. |
|||
|
Janet | Report | 28 Jun 2010 22:14 |
Yes Nicky, that is the same one, thanks. I also have Ellen in the previous census living with her sister Annie in Skipton. Her daughter (Hannah Key, my grandmother) was living in Whitehaven in 1901 with her godmother. Ellen obviously wasn't a very good mother! I have Albert in 1891 living with Hannah Pattinson as her 3 year old son. I still think she was really his grandmother! |
|||
|
SylviaInCanada | Report | 28 Jun 2010 22:29 |
Meg |
|||
Researching: |