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Can't seem to find a trace of ancestors that I know were married and born here - none of them show up on any of the census's. Odd. Any ideas?

Karman,

Have you tried variations of spellings? First and last names. I once found one of my relatives as "Billie"....his actual name was "William"!

Caroline.

If you give their names and approximate years of birth and place of birth someone will try to find them for you.

Kath. x

Most common reason

..... mis-spelling of the name on the census, or mis-transcription of the name by the transcribers


OR you could be putting in too much information

I've noticed for example that if you put in birthplace, and you don't put it exactly as it says on the census (eg, town and county, town alone, parish and county) then the record doesn't show




sylvia

Thanks for all the advice peeps. One of the son's of the father I am trying to find is listed in the 1871 census as being in the house on his own (aged 9) with his 3 year old brother (and the spelling of the surname is completely different to the surname I have). I would assume it was illegal for children to be left alone in the house at that age?

Not sure about the illegality of leaving children on their own at home aged 9 - not in 1871!

A lot of children were working from aged 8 - I've come across a few of those ...

Jill

Have you looked at the actual census image or are you just refering to the transcription?

If you post some names I'm sure someone else will take a look for you.

Christine

Ok, I'm stuck - if anyone could help, would be very much appreciated:

I am trying to find an Andrew John Moralee (born c. 1826 - a miner) - married to a Ruth Dixon. They had a son called Robert Moralee (born c 1861).

I've tried spelling Moralee all ways and have tried dropping the forenames off ... nothing even comes up for Ruth.

Thanks. K

This marriage?

Marriages Dec 1849 (>99%)
Dixon Ruth Newcastle T 25 400 Scan available - click to view
Futers Nicholas Newcastle T. 25 400 Scan available - click to view
Gibson Edward Newle Tyne 25 400 Scan available - click to view
Moralee Andrew Newcastle T 25 400 Scan available - click to view
Nesbitt Maria Newcastle T 25 400 Scan available - click to view
Scott Isabella Newcastle T 25 400 Scan available - click to view
SCOTT MARGARET Newcastle upon Tyne 25 400 Scan available - click to view
Winter William Newcastle upon Tyne 25 400 Scan available - click to view

1891 - are these related?

Isabella Baty
[Isabella Moralee]
Age: 52
Estimated birth year: abt 1839
Relation: Wife
Spouse's name: Andrew
Gender: Female
Where born: Whittingham, Cheshire, England

Civil parish: Muggleswick
Ecclesiastical parish: Muggleswick
Town: Waskerley
County/Island: Durham
Country: England


Registration district: Lanchester
Sub-registration district: Consett
ED, institution, or vessel: 13
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Andrew Baty 38
Emma Baty 42
Elenor Baty 14
Anne Baty 12
Mary A Robinson 22
Elizabeth Robinson 8
Isabella Baty 52
Andrew H Baty 20
Annie Baty 17
Joseph T G Baty 13
Frederic J Baty 10
Maudie E Baty 7
Alexander F Baty 5

this them for ref?

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1871 England Census
about Robert Maralee
Name: Robert Maralee
Age: 9
Estimated birth year: abt 1862
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Andrew
Mother's Name: Ruth
Gender: Male
Where born: Killingsworth, Northumberland, England
Civil parish: Urpeath
Ecclesiastical parish: Pelton
Town: Urpeth Colliery
County/Island: Durham
Country: England
Registration district: Chester Le Street
Sub-registration district: Chester le Street
ED, institution, or vessel: 15
Household schedule number: 157
Household Members: Name Age
Andrew Maralee 46
Ruth Maralee 41
John Maralee 20
Margaret Maralee 14
M Jane Maralee 12
Robert Maralee 9
William Maralee 8
Henry Maralee 2
Andrew Maralee 2

1851
Name: Andrew Moralee
Age: 25
Estimated birth year: abt 1826
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Ruth
Gender: Male
Where born: Northrd, Hartburn

Civil parish: Whalton
Ecclesiastical parish: Whalton
County/Island: Northumberland
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View image

Registration district: Castle Ward
Sub-registration district: Ponteland
ED, institution, or vessel: 27
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 57
Household Members: Name Age
Andrew Moralee 25
Ruth Moralee 21
John Moralee 6 Mo

Yes, thanks Mrs Grumpy, this marriage but why can't I find Andrew and Ruth anywhere on the census's?

1861
Name: Ruth Morale
Age: 33
Estimated birth year: abt 1828
Relation: Wife
Spouse's name: Andrew
Gender: Female
Where born: Hartborn, Northumberland, England

Civil parish: Killingworth
County/Island: Northumberland
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View image

Registration district: Tynemouth
Sub-registration district: Longbenton
ED, institution, or vessel: 10
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 71
Household Members: Name Age
Andrew Morale 36
Ruth Morale 33
John Morale 10
Philis Morale 8
Isabella Morale 6
Margaret Morale 4
Mary J Morale 2

yes, looks like it ... mispellings are very frustrating!! Thanks for that.

edit wrong one

Is this the family in 1881 mistranscribed again?


1881 England Census
about Robert Modale
Name: Robert Modale
Age: 19
Estimated birth year: abt 1862
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Andrew
Mother's Name: Ruth
Gender: Male
Where born: Long Benton, Northumberland, England

Civil parish: Pelton
County/Island: Durham
Country: England

Street Address: 7 Pelton
Education:


Occupation: Coal Miner

Registration district: Chester Le Street
Sub-registration district: Chester Le Street
ED, institution, or vessel: 21
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Andrew Modale 54
Ruth Modale 52
Robert Modale 19
William Modale 18
Andrew Modale 10
Ruth Modale 6

Christine

Thanks to everyone for their help. Appreciated!!

Karman,

You do realise that you will probably end up doing a One Name Study on this name! That's how I started with mine - the mistranscriptions and the unpicking of the info ...

Jill

lol, yes Jill. I am now confused as to what the correct spelling would be. So far, I have four variants - mind boggling!!!