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Jackie
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17 Feb 2010 16:24 |
I have the marriage certificate of Robert John Christian Syers to Isobel Ballantyne in Brentford in 1940. Roberts father was Robert William Syers, mother thought to be a Florence.
However, searches have not revealed a birth registration for Robert John Christian although his daughter says it was 2nd February. From his marriage certificate he was born in 1899/1900. I found a registration for a Robert J C Syers but also a death for the same year - ugh!!! As for father Robert William, I only know (again from the marriage cert) he was a merchant and deceased by 1940. Any ideas or tips to help me out with this one.? By the way, Robert John Christian Syers lived in Twickenham at the time of his marriage, working as a machine operator in munitions.
Jackie
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it
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17 Feb 2010 16:38 |
have you looked for them on the 1911 census.
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it
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17 Feb 2010 16:42 |
wonder if this is dad Name: Robert W Syers Death Registration Month/Year: 1920 Age at death (estimated): 44 Registration district: St Olave Inferred County: London Volume: 1d Page: 213
AHH that death would be this one on the 1901 census
Name: Robert Syers Age: 26 Estimated birth year: abt 1875 Relation: Head Spouse's name: Florence Gender: Male Where born: Newington, London, England Civil parish: Bermondsey Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary Magdalene Bermondsey County/Island: London Country: England Street Address:60 Guiness Trust Buildings- Lages Walk Occupation:General Carman
Condition as to marriage:
Education:
Employment status: View image Registration district: St Olave Southwark Sub-registration district: Bermondsey ED, institution, or vessel: 14 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 60 Household Members: Name Age Robert Syers 26 Florence Syers 24
Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 389; Folio: 138; Page: 10.
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MaureeninNY
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17 Feb 2010 16:50 |
Doesn't seem to have been them,though: 1911 census transcription details for: 316 Guinness Buildings P W Bermondsey RG14PN1883 RG78PN67 RD24 SD2 ED16 SN306
Reg. District: St Olave (Bermondsey) Sub District: Bermondsey Parish: Bermondsey Enum. District: 16 Address: 316 Guinness Buildings P W Bermondsey SYER, Robert William Head Married 12 years M 36 1875 Carman To General Carrier Stoke Newington SYER, Florence Rebecsa Wife Married F 32 1879 Southwark SYER, Violet May Daughter F 7 1904 Bermondsey SYER, Dorothy Alexandra Daughter F 1 1910 Bermondsey SYER, Reseline Emily Daughter F 0 (3 MONTHS) 1911 Bermondsey
Says 3 children living and they're accounted for.
Maureen
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Jackie
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17 Feb 2010 19:43 |
Thanks everyone for your suggestions.
Yes - i also thought this could have been them - however, no Robert John Christian Syers in 1911. We know he had a brother Noel Syers, the religious artist...again no birth registration for him either. I have got back to the grand daughter and she seems to think that Robert William Syers owned hotels in Germany and the name Robert Schrader Syers rings bells (nothing found anywhere about this). I seem to have hit a solid brick wall,
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MaureeninNY
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17 Feb 2010 19:55 |
Found this on FMP: Passenger lists leaving UK 1890-1960
Name: Mr R J C SYERS Date of departure: 2 April 1925 Port of departure: London Destination port: Cape Destination country: South Africa
Date of Birth: 1900 (calculated from age) Age: 25 Marital Status: Sex: Male Occupation: Clerk Notes: Passenger recorded on: Page 1 of 3 Ship: CITY OF SPARTA Official Number: 106082 Master's name: E Oleson Steamship Line: Ellerman & Bucknall Where bound: Durban (Port Natal), South Africa Square feet: Registered tonnage: 5415 Passengers on voyage: 26
Says country of permanent residence is South Africa.
Maureen
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Choccy
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17 Feb 2010 20:00 |
maybe
Births Mar 1900 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Schrader Robert John C Chelsea 1a 416
One World Tree on Ancestry has Florance married to Robert Schrader.
Florance apparently changed the family name during WW1 to Syers, after her divorce from her German husband.
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MaureeninNY
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17 Feb 2010 20:05 |
Brilliant,Choccy!!!! 1911 census transcription details for: 31 Russell Road Kensington W
National Archive Reference:
RG14PN88 RG78PN4 RD2 SD1 ED2 SN153
Reg. District: Kensington Sub District: Kensington South Parish: Kensington Enum. District: 2 Address: 31 Russell Road Kensington W County: London
SCHRADER, Roberts Head Married 12 years M 38 1873 Private Means Germany Resident SCHRADER, Florence Wife Married 12 years F 38 1873 Peru South America Resident SCHRADER JR, Robert Son M 11 1900 School London Chelsea SCHRADER, Noel Son M 7 1904 London Greatham GOODMAN, Ann Serving Single F 48 1863 At Present Nurse Midwife Cty Berkshire Deadworth Green BALDWIN, Minnie Servant F 38 1873 Housemaid London Paddington HOMEWOOD, Florence Servant F 23 1888 Cook Cty Sussex Arundel
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Choccy
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17 Feb 2010 20:12 |
could be Noel -
Births Mar 1904 (>99%) --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
SCHRADER Noel William H Wandsworth 1d 714
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Jackie
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17 Feb 2010 21:08 |
Thank you, thank you, thank you!!!!
I am overwhelmed by everyone's kindness in helping me with this one. I've been tearing my hair out over it for the past couple of weeks. I had tried searching for Robert Schrader Syers but when the marriage certificate came up with Robert William, I was completely thrown. Also thank you for looking on the 1911 census Maureen, as I know you have to pay for that. I am happy to look up any relatives you may be hunting in exchange, as I have a few credits left. Thanks again Jackiex
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Jackie
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17 Feb 2010 22:04 |
Woah! Am now on a roll. I have just ordered the naturalisation papers of a Henry William Robert Schrader from TNA. Thank you everyone.
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