Hi can anyone help.
Need to order two Scottish birth certificates but have not got any reference No's
Can anyone help find these references the persons I am looking for are Robert Cooper b:1819 Hamilton, lanarkshire and his son Robert Cooper b: 1843 Mussleburgh, Midlothian Which office would I have to write to?
This is my first venture into Scotland for info on my GGGF and GGGGF
Any help or advice would be a great help.
Thank you Ann
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You should be able to get the parish records from Scotlands People website online. I don't think birth certs started there until 1855. You need to register and it is free to search although you have to buy credits to view
http://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/
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Hi Ann, Nothing coming up for either of the Robert's on scotlandspeople. Are you sure of the dates & birth places?
Regards Kath
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These ones came up Results for: Robert Cooper, Birth/Christening, 1841 - 1845, Midlothian, Scotland, British Isles Exact Spelling: Off [refine search] [Print] Prepare selected records for download International Genealogical Index / British Isles - 4 Select records to download - (50 maximum) 1. ROBERT OWEN COOPER - International Genealogical Index Gender: Male Birth: 15 MAY 1842 Saint Cuthberts, Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotland 2. ROBERT TURNER COUPER - International Genealogical Index Gender: Male Birth: 03 JUN 1844 Edinburgh Parish, Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotland 3. ROBERT COOPER COOPER - International Genealogical Index Gender: Male Birth: 03 SEP 1845 South Leith, Midlothian, Scotland 4. ROBERT MCKENZIE COOPER - International Genealogical Index Gender: Male Christening: 14 DEC 1845 Tolbooth Church, Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotland
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Results for: Robert Cooper, Birth/Christening, 1817 - 1821, Lanark, Scotland, British Isles Exact Spelling: Off [refine search] [Print] Prepare selected records for download International Genealogical Index / British Isles - 1 Select records to download - (50 maximum) 1. ROBERT COUPER - International Genealogical Index Gender: Male Birth: 30 DEC 1817 Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland prev | next Prepare selected records for download
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Thank's to you all. Will take a look at the Scotishpeoples web site
Thanks again
Ann
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None born in Musselburgh but these two have Robert as a father.
ROBERT OWEN COOPER Pedigree Male Event(s): Birth: 15 MAY 1842 Saint Cuthberts, Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotland Christening: Death: Burial: Parents: Father: ROBERT COOPER Family Mother: HANNAH PARTINGTON
ROBERT TURNER COUPER Pedigree Male Event(s): Birth: 03 JUN 1844 Edinburgh Parish, Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotland Christening: Death: Burial: Parents: Father: ROBERT COUPER Family Mother: JANET TURNER
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These are the 2 showing for Robert snr. none for Hamilton though.
ROBERT COUPER Pedigree Male Event(s): Birth: 04 JUN 1816 Christening: 16 JUN 1816 Barony, Lanark, Scotland Death: Burial: Parents: Father: JOHN COUPER Family Mother: MARY BARNET
ROBERT COUPER Pedigree Male Event(s): Birth: 30 DEC 1817 Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland Christening: Death: Burial: Parents: Father: JOHN COUPER Family Mother: AGNES BANK
This one is submitted though.
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This is your 1841.
1851 Scotland Census about Robert Cooper Name: Robert Cooper Age: 32 Estimated birth year: abt 1819 Relationship: Head Spouse's name: Mary Gender: Male Where born: Hamilton, Lanark Parish Number: 622 Civil parish: Calton County: Lanarkshire Address: 38 James Street Occupation: Carrier ED: 22 Page: 9 (click to see others on page) Household schedule number: 36 Line: 10 Roll: CSSCT1851_146 Household Members: Name Age Robert Cooper 32 Mary Cooper 30 b Glasgow Agnes Cooper 11 b Glasgow Jane Cooper 9 b England Robert Cooper 8 b Musselburgh Mary Cooper 6 b England Margaret Cooper 4 b England
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Hi All, Sorry, I must have been having a senior moment yesterday.
Found 2 possible births for Robert senior on SP.
ROBERT COOPER 1819 DALSERF (very close to Hamilton)
ROBERT COOPER 1820 CADDER (not sure where this is exactly)
Regards Kath
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Cadder parish is in Lanark and contains Bishopbriggs, 8km N of Glasgow.
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Do you have any idea who Robert b Musselburgh married? The marriage certificate would have parents names on.
Ok forget that as he was married in England. I'm hoping the census records are correct?
New Search Exact Search Results - England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index: 1837-1915 Refine your search All Birth, Marriage & Death Results Viewing 1-4 of 4 View Record Name Year of Registration Spouse's Surname District County View Image Order Record View Record William Collier 1865 Bolton Greater Manchester, Lancashire View Record >>Robert Cooper 1865 Bolton Greater Manchester, Lancashire View Record Elizabeth Gaw 1865 Bolton Greater Manchester, Lancashire View Record >>Alice James 1865 Bolton Greater Manchester, Lancashire
Liz
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1861 for Robert?
1861 census transcription details for: 22, Stott Hillock, Great Bolton, Bolton National Archive Reference: RG number: RG09 Piece: 2825 Folio: 105 Page: 40 Reg. District: Bolton Sub District: 11 Bolton Eastern Parish: Great Bolton Enum. District: 4 Ecclesiastical District: Holy Trinity Church City/Municipal Borough: Bolton Address: 22, Stott Hillock, Great Bolton, Bolton County: Lancashire Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born ENTWATTER, Edward Head Married M 52 1809 Dresser Of Cotton Bolton Lancashire ENTWATTER, Catherine Wife Married F 48 1813 Cotton Weaver Dunfield Scotland ENTWATTER, John Son Unmarried M 21 1840 Cotton Weaver Bury Lancashire ENTWATTER, James Son Unmarried M 17 1844 Piecer Of Cotton Bolton Lancashire ENTWATTER, Edward Son Unmarried M 11 1850 Piecer Of Cotton Bolton Lancashire ENTWATTER, David Son Unmarried M 8 1853 Bolton Lancashire ENTWATTER, Susanna Daughter Unmarried F 6 1855 Bolton Lancashire COOPER, Robert Boarder Unmarried M 18 1843 Broker Of Cop ... Musselburgh Scotland
1871 census transcription details for: Thomax Buildings, Great Bolton, Bolton National Archive Reference: RG number: RG10 Piece: 3940 Folio: 74 Page: 31 Reg. District: Bolton Sub District: Bolton Eastern Parish: Great Bolton Enum. District: 20 Ecclesiastical District: City/Municipal Borough: Bolton Address: Thomax Buildings, Great Bolton, Bolton County: Lancashire Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born COOPER, Robert Head M 27 1844 Scotland COOPER, Alice Wife F 25 1846 Lancashire
1881 census transcription details for: 4, Leamington St, Tonge With Haulgh National Archive Reference: RG number: RG11 Piece: 3827 Folio: 54 Page: 47 Reg. District: Bolton Sub District: Tonge with Haulgh Parish: Tonge with Haulgh Enum. District: Ecclesiastical District: City/Municipal Borough: Address: 4, Leamington St, Tonge With Haulgh County: Lancashire Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born COOPER, Robert Head Married M 36 1845 Van Man For A Baker (Carter) N K COOPER, Alice Wife Married F 34 1847 Cotton Weaver Bolton Lancashire COOPER, Minnie Daughter Single F 13 1868 Cotton Weaver Bolton Lancashire COOPER, Robert A Son Single M 9 1872 Scholar Bolton Lancashire COOPER, Malcom Son Single M 5 1876 Scholar Bolton Lancashire COOPER, Alice Daughter Single F 2 1879 Bolton Lancashire COOPER, John Son Single M 1 1880 Bolton Lancashire RAVENSCROFT, William Lodger Single M 22 1859 Baker Middlewich Cheshire
1891 census transcription details for: 41, Bury Old Road, Tonge With Haulgh, Bolton National Archive Reference: RG number: RG12 Piece: 3108 Folio: 11 Page: 15 Reg. District: Bolton Sub District: Tonge with Haulgh Parish: Tonge with Haulgh Enum. District: 1 Ecclesiastical District: St Peters City/Municipal Borough: Bolton Address: 41, Bury Old Road, Tonge With Haulgh, Bolton County: Lancashire Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born COOPER, Robert Head Married M 48 1843 Strap Stitcher Scotland COOPER, Alice Wife Married F 46 1845 Weaver Cotton Bolton Lancashire COOPER, Robert Allen Son Single M 19 1872 Railway Stoker Bolton Lancashire COOPER, Alice Daughter Single F 14 1877 Weaver Cotton Bolton Lancashire COOPER, Agnes Daughter F 9 1882 School Boy Canada COOPER, Malcolm Son Single M 15 1876 Piecer In Cotton Mill Bolton Lancashire COOPER, Cicilia Daughter F 6 1885 Bolton Lancashire COOPER, John Son M 11 1880 Piecer In Cotton Mill Bolton Lancashire COOPER, Gertrude Daughter F 4 1887 Bolton Lancashire JAMES, Mary Wifes Sister Single F 49 1842 Frame Tenter Bolton Lancashire
1901 census transcription details for: 1, Scarborough Street, Bolton National Archive Reference: RG number: RG13 Piece: 3629 Folio: 185 Page: 50 Reg. District: Bolton Sub District: Great Bolton Parish: Bolton Enum. District: 42 Ecclesiastical District: Bolton Le Moors St Peters City/Municipal Borough: Address: 1, Scarborough Street, Bolton County: Lancashire Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born COOPER, Robert Head Married M 58 1843 Machine Belting Leather Scotland COOPER, Alice Wife Married F 56 1845 Bolton Lancashire COOPER, Agnes Daughter Single F 19 1882 Weaver Cotton Canada Onto COOPER, Cecilia Daughter Single F 16 1885 Weaver Cotton Bolton Lancashire COOPER, Gertrude Daughter F 13 1888 Bolton Lancashire
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Hi All, According to the 1851 census, Robert senior's wife was Mary??? Could this be the marriage perhaps?
IGI Individual Record FamilySearchâ„¢ International Genealogical Index v5.0 British Isles Search Results | Download | Print
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ROBERT COOPER Pedigree Male Family
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Event(s): Birth: Christening: Death: Burial:
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Marriages: Spouse: MARY AITON Family Marriage: 18 SEP 1837 Saint Cuthberts, Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotland -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Messages: Extracted marriage record for locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the marriage date.
Regards Kath
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Here they are going to Canada with Mrs Cooper 34, Minnie,11, R A 9, Malcolm 6, Alice 3, John 1.
Canadian Passenger Lists, 1865-1935 about Robt Cooper Name: Robt Cooper Labourer Gender: Male Age: 36 Estimated birth year: abt 1845 Date of Arrival: 17 Jul 1881 Vessel: Circassian Search Ship Database: View the 'Circassian' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database Port of Arrival: Quebec, Quebec Port of Departure: Liverpool, England; Londonderry, Ireland Roll: C-4531
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As far as I am aware accurate Scottish records are not available from anywhere else other than Scotlands People or by visitng our Register House in Edinburgh so I would be very wary of accepting other info re above post as chances are it will not be correct..
Jackie
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Thankyou all for the info, it's a great help
Thankyou also for the sailings information, I wasn't aware that malcom son of Robert had been to Canada Malcolm was my GGfather.
I must now have a look for one of Robert's (B:1845) children who I note was born in Canada
Regards Ann
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This is the parish records for Robert Cooper born Lanarkshire 1815-1825
1 05/06/1820 COOPER ROBERT JAMES COOPER/JANET THOM FR743 M CADDER /LANARK 626/ 0030 0005 VIEW (5 CREDITS) ORDER 2 22/04/1819 COOPER ROBERT GRIER JAMES COOPER/HANNAH RICARDS FR93 M DALSERF /LANARK 638/ 0010 0174 VIEW (5 CREDITS
and from 1837-1850 in Midlothian nothing in Musselburg though
No Date Surname Forename Parent Names/Frame No. Sex Parish City/County GROS Data Image Extract 1 03/09/1845 COOPER ROBERT COOPER ANDREW COOPER/MARGARET SKEDDAN FR5674 M LEITH SOUTH EDINBURGH CITY/MIDLOTHIAN 692/002 0200 0394 VIEW (5 CREDITS) ORDER 2 14/12/1845 COOPER ROBERT MCKENZIE JOHN COOPER/ M TOLBOOTH CHURCH, EDINB EDINBURGH CITY/MIDLOTHIAN 685/T00 0010 No Image ORDER 3 15/05/1842 COOPER ROBERT OWEN ROBERT COOPER/HANNAH PARTINGTON FR2510 M ST CUTHBERT'S EDINBURGH CITY/MIDLOTHIAN 685/002 0350 0683 VIEW (5 CREDITS) ORDER 4 15/05/1842 COOPER ROBERT OWEN OR DICK// M ST CUTHBERT'S BLOTTER EDINBURGH CITY/MIDLOTHIAN 685/S00 08MR No Image ORDER
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