Genealogy Chat

Haven't got time to cut & paste right now(I'm just sneaking a look in) but searching on Quantick Wandsworth in 1911 also brings up Tracey's parents and a mini Tracey.

Meanwhile, have we looked at brother Tracey in 1911? I lost the train of thought a bit ...


QUANTICK TRADY 1883 28 Wandsworth London
QUANTICK ELIZABETH 1883 28 Wandsworth London
(Lizzie Lane from the marriage)
QUANTICK FREDERICK 1906 5 Wandsworth London
QUANTICK ESTTELA 1908 3 Wandsworth London
QUANTICK WALTER 1909 2 Wandsworth London
QUANTICK IVY 1911 0 Wandsworth London

plus the post-1911 Hilda and Frederick. ... Two Fredericks? Hmm, the second was born in 1929, so not likely the same lot.

Some of them would have been mature when Alice died. There could be family lore.

Goodness knows where Alice is in 1911.
Anyone got credits and care to have a look at this one?
The only Alice May Wood of about the right age in London:

HOUSEHOLD WOOD ALICE MAY F 1890 21 Fulham London

Oh, that Evie, quite the reputation. ;)

I got nuthin to contribute at this point, but wanted to make my mark so I'll see when something crops up -- like a reply from the Hagley relation!

Possibly Thomas Hagley in 1901? The only one on Ancestry born Exeter living London:


1901 England Census
about Thos Hagley
Name: Thos Hagley
Age: 26
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1875
Relation: Servant
Gender: Male
Where born: Exeter, Devon, England

Civil Parish: Kensington
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mark Notting Hill
County/Island: London
Country: England



Registration district: Kensington
Sub-registration district: Kensington Town
ED, institution, or vessel: 51
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 240
Household Members:
Name Age
David W Hillebrand 37 Baker born Germany (foreign embassy)
Violet Hillebrand 37 born norfolk
Thos Hagley 26 Baker bread

Well I'm hoping too but he hasn't opened his PM yet.

From looking at the census it appears that Thomas Hagley was quite a bit older than Alice. She would only have been 17ish when Sidney was born but Thomas was about 33. They also married the same quarter as Sidney was born.

I can only guess that it may have been a shotgun wedding or Thomas felt sorry for her and married her and took on Sidney as his own.

I wish I had a time machine!

Evie isn't on the boards at the moment but maybe she'll be tempted back as the story hots up........

Janet that is exciting! Lets hope you get a quick response.

Julie

WOW

have just read this thread for the first time Sherlock Holmes eat your heart out, skeletons won't stay in closets long when Evie gets on the case. Well done.

Jackie

Not only has it been transcribed I think the transcriber is the Richard who has Sidney on here. Just sent him a PM.

Oops, sorry, I always delete the bumph when I copy and paste from FreeBMD -- "(>99%)" -- and I deleted the year. ;)

Deaths Mar 1976
Hagley Sidney Thanet 16 2435

(then I looked at the image for the birthdate)

By some stroke of luck, this 1976 death has been transcribed.

Oh I guess I could ask for myself as your all such good detectives, if anyone stumbles over Selina Jane Mitchell formerly Tocqueville nee Shackleton born 1856 Southampton on the 1911 I'll give them a cream cake. She should be in hackney, shoreditch london area but I can't find her. (or her son my grandfather but he's a fly by night so no suprise he's disappeared)

Evie, what year is that death for Sidney? I can't find it.

Thanks

Thank you Julie. Credit where credits due. My problem is I skim read, extract the data then forget who contributed it!

So Sidney was born some time before the marriage and Thomas was 17 years older than Alice. Hmm I wonder what happened there? Was it a tardy marriage, did Alice marry to give her child a father, or had Thomas been left holding the baby and marrry Alice to give Sidney a Mother?

I thought my lot were difficult!

I started replying to this last night but neglected the submit button. (OH dragged me away from lappy. I was kicking and screaming but it didn't stop him :-))So I guess I'll submit now but it looks like your all going the same way as me!

I've been looking at Ernest Rookes sisters to see who they all married in case they married a Wood but they didn't. Hadn't thought of looking for Tracey's military records.

I had tried to find Hagley on the 1911 to see if Alice was with him but she isn't, only a son Sidney aged 5. So she was away from home or she'd left him. Off to look at Tracey's records on ancestry to see if I can get any clues and see when he married and also look for a death of Thomas.

Of course as John Henry Wood (who annoyingly seeems to be Henry John on the 1911) registered the birth of his child but when asked mothers maiden name did exactly that omitting the Hagley as a former name.

So it now looks like she ran off with the greengrocer, well a girls gotta get her fruit where she finds it. It's sad if she abandoned Sidney though

That's what I was getting at, on the other side. ;)

Sidney Hagley would have been 15ish when Dolly was born. Would he have had any contact with his mother, Alice Quantick? for instance.

Hagleys aside for a mo - there is a list of Tracey Quantick's children on the WW pension records- so it may be possible to work forwards and find living relatives who might know *a story* ?

I am going to bed!

There's no Hagley+ Brayley marriage 1900 onward.


Births Dec 1912
Hagley Cleveland G Brayley Lambeth 1d 867

Deaths Mar 1981
Hagley Cleveland Graham Weston 22 1613

Births Sep 1915
Hagley Hilda M Brayley Wandsworth 1d 962


The person who has the other Hagleys mentioned above in his tree also has Hilda.


This Brayley in 1911 seems to be unmarried - no other Brayleys in her household.

BRAYLEY EDITH 1881 30 Wandsworth London


None of this is actually relevant. Any children of Thomas Hagley would not be related to a child of Alice May Quantick Hagley 'Wood', other than by the fact that the father of one was once married to the mother of the other -- except for Sidney Hagley, who would seem to be a half-brother of Dolly, having the same mother.


Deaths Mar
Hagley Sidney Thanet 16 2435

- from image: DOB 25 Jan 1906.

I dunno, Viv ... poular? Is that a nice thing to be??

I'm actually more guilty of kibitzing in this thread than of producing anything productive, I think. For some reason I just keep getting credit where it isn't due every time I clap for Julie!


This is our Thomas Edmund Hagley:

Births Mar 1873
HAGLEY Thomas Edmund Exeter 5b 118

Devon is the source of most things Quantick too, of course.


Could this be him in 1911 then?

HAGLEY THOMAS 1872 39 Wandsworth London
HAGLEY SIDNEY 1906 5 Wandsworth London

-- the only Hagleys in the household.

Births Mar 1906
Hagley Sidney Wandsworth 1d 670


Somebody at GR has a Sidney Hagley born "1902 Devon?" in their tree. There was no Sidney Hagley born 1900-1905. ??

He also has Thomas Hagley 1872 Totnes.

... but then, he may also have every Hagley ever born in his tree ...


Deaths Sep 1932
Hagley Thomas E 56 Battersea 1d 321

BOY,
aren,t we the poular one then Evie?