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Can anyone tell me why a child would be regestered twice once in the mothers maiden name and again in the fathers name e.g. colin white sep 1917 and again in turland I have never come across this before Thanks

Parents probably weren't married at the time?

Rose

Colin was a twin?

Births Sep 1917
Turland Leslie Turland Basford 7b 440
White Leslie Turland Basford 7b 440

Rose

There are a whole load of siblings registered with both surnames but I don't see a marriage.

Rose

Patricia,

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Do you know who the parents were?

Rose

Hi no thats what we are trying to find out we think the father was called george and that there is an older sister violet born aug 1910 and they lived in hucknall nottingham

Yes most likely the child's parenst were not married when he was born, so when they did get marry they wanted to give him his father's name.

You mean this birth?

Births Dec 1910
TURLAND Violet W Basford 7b 271

Does the W stand for White? Should be able to find her in 1911.

Rose

More possible siblings?

Births Jun 1909
TURLAND Dorothy May W Basford 7b 298

Births Sep 1912
Turland Clarence W W Turland Basford 7b 537

Births Sep 1914
TURLAND Arthur W Turland Basford 7b 555

Rose

Yes thanks you are a genius i have even found another child but not found anything in 1911

There's a Violet, Dorothy, George and Aer in Hucknall on the census. Violet is listed as 7 but I wonder if it is 7 months on the image.

I think this is a family but it's hard to tell without paying.

Schedule type Last names First names Sex Birth year Age in 1911 District / other County / other Transcript Original page
WHITE AER M 1898 13 Basford Nottinghamshire
WHITE DOROTHY F 1910 1 Basford Nottinghamshire
WHITE GEORGE M 1864 47 Basford Nottinghamshire
WHITE VIOLET F 1904 7 Basford Nottinghamshire

Rose

Who is the other child?

Rose

jean white born nottingham 1930

I have members of my family registered once in the mothers married name then registered again in the actual fathers surname (with the mothers maiden name given each time on the BMD, the page and vol are identical) , someone told me this is because when they were registered he will have signed something to confirm they were his children, and not her husbands, but because they weren't married procedure lead to them being registered twice and this was in the 1930's.

I guess the procedure was the same if they weren't married, leading to the child being registered twice.

For one of those registered twice in my family I have ordered 'both' certificates just to see if they had two seperate certificates or one, its probably just the one, but curiosity got the better of me.

There's just one certificate per person. In the case of illegitimate births, the father has the option of attending the registration and adding his name to the certificate; this is normally done in person, but doesn't have to be. Unless the father authorizes his name to be added to the registration, either in person or in writing, the registrar is not allowed to enter it. This doesn't apply to the mother's husband.
The child has the option of using either surname, and so there are two index entries to the same certificate.

Thanks for the help everybody!!

What about in the case, of someone being born in a workhouse?

What's different about being born in a workhouse?
Now, if it were a stable, I can see paternity issues arising there.

Oh Isee, I am still half asleep lol. I seem wat you mean. It was a case in my famiyl doesn't matter.

My father-in-law was registered twice, in 1924 before his mother was married when he was registered in her maiden name, and again in 1934 in his fathers name. His father was named on the original birth certificate, and I have copies of both.