Genealogy Chat

I have just had my husbands grandparents marriage cert, the wifes father's occupation was master mariner.
does anyone know where i could find out which ship he was on?
Or anything else about it, as i am struggling to find his family in the census's.

many thanks

sue

do you want to post the name and other details?
sometimes mariners on vessels are listed on census

Christine

An idea may be to go to the National Maritime museum website.

I found my master mariner by contacting the local maritime authorities. Happy hunting.

Hi,
many thanks, i will look at the maritime website.

sue

had a look but cant find anything.
his name was george knight born c1844, died pre 1889. only child i know of is mary lydia knight born liverpool 1869. she married john carr in toxteth park liverpool.

sorry thats all the info i have on him.

sue

Sometimes the marriages are recorded for the purposes of a naval widow's pension. You might try the National Archives site.

Rose

I dion't see a birth for Mary. Do you have her in 1871 and 1881?

Rose

Is this Mary...?

Births Jun 1869
Knight Mary Lydia Southwell 7b 269


EDIT
No. I think her father was Thomas a butcher

all i can find is 1881
toxteth park liverpool
mary knights wife head, 37, ireland, husband at sea
mary e knights dau,11, liverpool

but i dont know if this right as its mary E and not mary L

sue

If I've found the correct John and Mary Carr in Toxteth in 1891, then Mary states that she was born 1869 in London

seaham lass,
thank you very much, i have been searching census's for hours and my heads gone fuzzy.
I need to fnd her birth now.
she was married to john carr in 1889 in toxteth liverpool.
i also need to find her in 1881 and 1871 to find her parents.
george knight was a master mariner in 1889 on wedding cert but says he was deceased.

sue

Some more thoughts:
My Master Mariner was from Liverpool too! Try the Merseyside Genealogy and History Forum - it's free and its v. helpful. Loads of info available on anything to do with Liverpool.
Also, google the Liverpool Maritime museum as they can be helpful.
Someone also suggested I tried the Captain's Register at the Guildhall
http://www.history.ac.uk/gh/capintro.
But honestly, the above Merseyside link is great. Happy hunting

Also the Lancashire bmd is a useful site too!

thank you cynthia off to have a look
sue

What about the witnesses to the marriage?

Rose

the names of the witnesses are hard to read but look like J Bimson and Mary Bimson.

sue

having looked, i think the witnesses were from the carr side of the family and not the knights, i found a marriage for a mary carr to james brimson in 1882 in liverpool.

sue

The Bimsons are next door in 1891:

1891 England Census
about Mary Bimson
Name: Mary Bimson
Age: 27
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1864
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: James
Gender: Female
Where born: Liverpool
Civil Parish: Toxteth Park
Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Trinity
Town: Liverpool
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Registration district: Toxteth Park
Sub registration district: Toxteth Park
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Household Members: Name Age
Gertrude Bimson 1
James Bimson 26
James Bimson 3
Mary Bimson 27
Mary C Bimson 5
Ellen Ryley 10

Ellen is listed as neice. Looks more like Rigby on the image.

Rose

thank you, you are a star
i dont suppose you can find george knight the master mariner lol

sue