Genealogy Chat

Just found what could have been one of my great granfathers only to find he is the only one.No brides name.Usually 4 names two of each.Would that mean his brides name was unreadable?I am new to this.Jay

Probably means that the other names haven't been transcribed yet.

Christine

Von,Its 1858.William Lawrence.Theres no other name.was hoping for a Mary Ann. Jay

What about 1861 Census, should be a clue there.

Check the image and verify the page number is correct. Is it the one in Greenwich?

Rose

I think it should be 560a which means he married Phoebe Hodgman.

Rose

Thank you all so much.It was greenwich but i am looking for Mary Ann on the 1861 census.They had Mary aged 1 year.

Could this be them ??

1861 Census
Name: William Lawrence
Age: 25
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1836
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Mary Ann
Gender: Male
Where born: Deptford, Kent, England

Civil Parish: Deptford St Paul
Ecclesiastical parish: St Paul
Town: Deptford
County/Island: Kent
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View Image

Registration district: Greenwich
Sub registration district: St Paul Deptford
ED, institution, or vessel: 39
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 7
Household Members: Name Age
Mary Lawrence 1
Mary Ann Lawrence 21
William Lawrence 25 - Caulker

Think you will will need to get this birth cert:

Births Mar 1860
LAWRENCE Mary Matilda Greenwich 1d 584

Rose

I agree with Portland Rose that the bride is Phoebe looking at the images both William and Phoebes names are later additions to the list of names on the register.

Just noticed something odd there appears to be two different index numbers for their wedding Greenwich 1d 560a 1st quarter and Greenwich 1d 773 2nd quarter

They're also listed in the Jun qtr for that year too.

Rose

maybe they liked getting wedding presents!

Alternatively, it could mean that her page # was misread (or unreadable) - try looking at the entire rego district for marrs in that quarter. Probably best to just check Mary Ann's first, and see if they're the 5th name on a page, or their page isn't readable - check this against the image.

Daughter Mary Matilda is on the IGI:

MARY MATILDA LAWRENCE
Birth: 07 JAN 1860
Christening: 05 FEB 1860 Saint Paul, Deptford, Kent, England
Father: WILLIAM HENRY LAWRENCE
Mother: MARY ANN

That's definitely the right family, as on the 1871 census William has the middle initial H and his daughter Mary has the middle name Matilda. I think Rose is right - you should get Mary Matilda's birth cert in order to ascertain her mother's maiden name.

how about this marriage - Bromley isn't that far away from Deptford:

WILLIAM LAWRENCE
Father: WILLIAM LAWRENCE
Spouse: MARY ANN NUNNEY
Father: RICHARD HUMPHREY NUNNEY
Marriage: 14 JUN 1858 Bromley, Kent, England

... ties in with this birth, too:

Births Sep 1838
NUNNEY Mary Ann Greenwich 5 201

Marriages Jun 1858

Lawrence William Bromley 2a 313
May Thomas William Bromley 2a 313
NUNNEY Mary Ann Bromley 2a 313
Sullivan Elizabeth Bromley 2a 313