Genealogy Chat

Hi Derek


Large Scotch well dervsered!!! Thank you so much Hazel

I think my aunt Ann(e) Price was married in Buxton in the late 40's early 50's. She was born in Liverpool, went to Chatsworth Street School and her brothers were Jimmy, Johnny and Georgie. Her father's name was John Price. I would love to trace her daughters, one of whom is Theresa. I don't know their surname, sorry.

Hello there Derek, one of your worst nightmares is back to haunt you. Part of this, is one of my Josephs wonder if you can help. Here we go........

I have just received the death cert for Joseph Hall.. born 1823 He died in the Hayfield Union Workhouse New Mills on 14/03/1892. The informant was the notorious John Livesley (been reading about him) Now in 1891 Joseph was living with his daughter Elizabeth, so he was not in there for too long. Do you perhaps.........by chance.............if I'm lucky ...... have any records for this workhouse. It would be nice if there was some sort of admission record, as to why folk went in.

I hope you can help.......he hee.......I do have more queries for you, I did say it was gonna be a nightmare. I'll leave you with this one for now.

Cheerio, Joan

Hi Joan............no nightmares, just sling anything you like at me.....bit of a slack period at the moment.so can give you plenty of time.
I can tell you he was not in the Workhouse in 1881..the only available Census for Workhouses.

If you Google "Hayfield Union Workhouse", you'll find whats available.
Yhe scroll down menu gives you the 1881 census..and htere is a liitle book on the Hayfield Workhouse which appeasr not to be avaiable right now.

As i always say..if in doubt Google it!! you never know what little jewels you'll find.

Nice to hear from you again.

Derek.

Susan Annette..Hi.....I'm afraid my records only go to about 1901.....I assume your 40's and 50's are 20th century?????.I have Buxton records up to v1901..

Derek

Hi again joan..addition to previous message:......Have found the 1891 Hayfield Census.....there may be a clue to why he was in the Workhouse..he is aqged 69..Retired Cotton Weaver, and is BLIND. living with his unmarried daughter Elizabeth aged 31.
Perhaps he was in the Workhouse becasue he was blind (there were often some kind of hospital facilities in some workhouses)..and perhaps he was discharged to die?? which he did shorlty afterwards......

Derek

Hello Derek, I did a google on it. Found lots of general info, but no admission records. That's if they had them. Never mind, hey workhouses seem to be a family trait.

Hey, slack period...................not any longer. Got more for you. A sort of addition to help you have previously given me.

You confirmed for me that John Hall Bap. 20/04/1760 Married Ellen Kinder Born c 1760. I know they had one son Robert Hall born c 1786.........do you know if there were any siblings ?

I'll leave you with that Derek, but..............I've more..............never tell a woman you are having a slack period. :-)

Hi Derek, Yes he was blind.........had been for about 25 to 30 years from memory. Didn't stop the old bugger having loads of kids though. Cause of death was, Senile Decay, and Cardiac failure. As his daughter had looked after him, I was just wondering why she got shot of him into the workhouse.............perhaps he just got too much for her.

Hi Derek, it's good of you to offer. I now know that my father's sister married in Buxton and that she had three daughters; their surname is Logan.
Ann Price married ? Logan in 1947
Patricia was born in 1948
Sandra in 1949
and Theresa in 1951
That's as far as I've got and that was with GR help. What I need to know now is the girls' married names, if any, particularly Theresa's.
Many regards,
Sue

Well, it's me again. Any chance of finding the birth of James Nixon, born c 1773 in Fairfield, Buxton? He also has a daughter Betty or Elizabeth born about 1801 presumably in Fairfield too. They land in Macclesfield in 1841, but are not Born In County. Also any marriage of James Nixon that is appropriate. I imagine that he married twice, perhaps the second time in Macclesfield.

All a bit vague I realise, see what you can do.

He might also have a daughter Hannah born 1797-ish.

Best wishes

Margaret

Hi Margaret..just to let you know i am still looking.....

Derek

Hello Derek,

I have another one for you. To save you looking back I'll do a quick C & P for you.

You confirmed for me that John Hall Bap. 20/04/1760 Married Ellen Kinder Born c 1760. I know they had one son Robert Hall born c 1786.........do you know if there were any siblings ?

Next question.John's father.

I have found two possibilities, well I hope I have.

No 1.........Henry Hall Bap. 20/06/1731 in St Oswald Ashbourne Derbyshire
or
No 2........Henry Hall Birth 1738 in Norton Derbyshire

I will have to go back and check. I think it was No 1 that had a father listed as Henry.as well.

I'll post a quick PS for you. It would be great if you can crack this one for me.

Hi,

Yes it was No 1

I'm really hoping he is one of mine, Fingers crossed. xx

For madmeg.........Margaret..I can't find any Nixons in my Buxton Records. There are so many small places in the area that at one time or another had their own records..one of them is Hope....the best I can do for the moment is someone who might be descended from your James:-

JAMES NIXON aged 48 a widower married ANNIE NORTHAM aged 55 a widow with the maiden name Moynihan.The wedding took place at Hope 16.10.1897

Derek.

Hi Derek

As you say, could be a relative, even a son of the same James. I'll think on whether to pursue it.

Incidentally, some of us get together privately as a result of reading this thread - Joan and I have recently been swapping info on the Hayfield Workhouse, which wasn't in Hayfield at all, but at the bottom of the road in New Mills in which I was brought up.

Margaret

Hi Madmeg.........talking of work houses I have found a little coincidence. Well sort of.

In 1892 one of my Josephs died as you know, in Hayfield Work house. The master was one John Livesley not a very nice man, by all accounts.

In 1877 there was a Thomas Livsey, in Rochdale, creating all sorts of shananicans with the work houses. Not quite the same spelling I know, but made me wonder. Reckon all these workhouse masters were sent to taunt the poor old Halls. Mind you, the buggers have been taunting me since I started tracing my tree. :-)

Hi Joan and Margaret..if you Google Thomas Livsey, there is an interesting note of Criminal proceedings against him.he came up smelling of roses!....then Google hayfield Workhouse..there is a list of inmates for 1881...

Derek

Hi Derek

Some time ago when I was enquiring about any Tattersalls in the Chesterfield area you said you had found the birth of a son to a George Tattersall (1792) and that the last burial you had found for Tattersalls was 1800, this was in the Baslow area, I asked if you could give me the details, I expect my request has got lost amongst the many that you receive but if you have a minute could you please give me the details.

Thanking you
Regards
Kathleen

Hi kathleen..I think its a case of looking around the various records i have and sending you whatever Tattersalls i find, which is a long process.
Without suggesting that any of these are relevant i offer you the Tattersalls of BASLOW......a name that appears to have moved on after 1800........in the 18th century you are very ucky to get both parents..Here goes...

Baslow Baptisms:- TATTERSALL

Alexander son of George 10.10.1790
Ann d. of Isaac and Jane 15.06.1740
Ann d. of Thomas 27.03.1744
David son of Thomas and mary 01.07.1722
David son of Isaac and Jane 18.04.1756
David son of Thomas 25.05.1773
Elinda dr of Thomas 06.08.1769
Grace dr of Thomas 02.11.1771
Isaac son of Thomas 01.01.1719
Isaac son of isaac and Jane 01.01.1750
Isaac son of David 04.11.1780
John son of George and Alice 26.01.1738
Joseph son of David 06.10.1779
Martha dr of Isaac and Jane 20.09.1747
Martha dr of Thomas 04.08.1771
Mary dr of David 06.10.1779
Robert son of Godfrey 14.06.1595
Robert son of isaac and jane 07.01.1753
Thomas son of isaac and jane 08.11.1741
William son of Thomas 30/09/1769

There are four entries for TATTERSHALL..including :three as children of Thomas.and one .JANE daughterof Thomas and Anne bapt.13.10.1765..and the reason i include that is becasue i believe that Tattersall and Tattershall are the same becasue of the following marriage:

Thomas TATTERSALL married Ann Holmes 19.02.1765 and surely is the father of Jane Tattershall 13'10.1765.and probably many of the others mentioned above.

The only other Marriage at baslow is:

Godfrey married Elizabeth Mosley 04.08.1594


Baslow BURIALS:

Ann 24.12.1815 Aged 88
Ann d. of Thomas and mary 29.05.1732
Ann dr of Isaac 19.06.1740
David son of Thomas 04.08.1774
Grace dr of Thomas 21.02.1775 aged 2
Isaac ...26.07.1786
James son of Isaac and jane 20.01.1757
Jane wife of isaac 23.03.1794
Joseph son of David 19.10.1779
Mary wife of David 24.04.1784
Mary wife of Thomas 21.02.1802
Sarah 04.10.1758
Thomas 01.01.1737
Thomas 04.10./1758
Thomas father of Sarah 14.120.1800
Thomas 04.10.1801
Thomas 05.06.1803
William son of Thomas 04.12.1793 aged 2

That's Baslow.....I'll conmtinue to look around

Derek

Kathleen..as an afterthought to my message below..perhaps you can remind me of your original query...I have found some other stuff and i'd like to start from scratch.

Derek