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Just had copy of a 1854 Marriage Certificate, most of which I cant read and worse still Bride & Grooms ages are not indicated. Think the Grooms says "Senior" and some scribble in the brides which I cant decipher was this normal practice at that time? Any help would be appreciated.

It was quite common at that time for no age to be given, just ..' full '..or ' minor '
It did depend on who filled in the details though.
I have a photocopy here of a page from a marriage register of 1843. One marriage on the page shows ' full age ', while the other marriage shows the actual given ages for the bride and groom.

If your certificate does indeed say ' senior', it might indicate that he had a son of the same name.

Gwyn

Gwyneth, your a star. Bride and father, same surname but she signed with an "X" She Hannah Burton married William Molyneux 26/2/1854. Witnesses were Samuel Edwards and Ann Hurst who also signed "x" I've got Hannah and William in 1891 &1901 census but not before. Be interesting to see if you can track back for me.
Regards Alan

Forgot to add residence at time of marriage looks like NAYLOR ST Liverpool.
William's father a Thomas Molyneux a Shoemaker and Hannahs father a Farmer. Every little helps ??

What was the name of Hannah's father.?

Could this be your couple in 1861 at 32 Clifton Street ?.......

Name: William Molyneux
Age: 27
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1834
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Anna
Gender: Male
Where born: Ramford, Lancashire, England

Civil Parish: Everton
Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter
Town: Liverpool
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Registration district: West Derby
Sub registration district: Everton
ED, institution, or vessel: 13
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 282
Household Members: Name Age
Anna Molyneux 31
Thomas Molyneux 4
William Molyneux 27

Hi Gwyn,
Hannah's father was Thomas, a coachman.
Entry you show isnt the one I fear. William Molyneux born Worsley, Manchester and his father also a Thomas.
Thank you for trying.
Alan

Hannah's father was a coachman.....or a farmer, as per previous post..?

Gwyn

Sorry for confusing you Gwyn, ...Hannah's father was Thomas Burton who was a farmer. Was looking at two certificates......................it's my age!

Oh the shame of it......a labourer, which explains a lot!!!

When ou found them in 1891 where they together and what was shown for their birthplaces?
I've found a William and Hannah living in separte addresses...
Could you tell us what you found in the census please?
I find it easier to work back once I've seen the actual image, ....sometimes, no guarantee !

Gwyn

sent info by Genes . Thought I could scan my info and send as attachment............cant help my age.

Wow, 3 helpers cant believe my luck. Thank you.
1891 census refs RG12 piece 2935 folio 84 page 41
Reg dist Toxteth Park
address 5 Northbrook Street Toxteth Park Liverpool

Sorry its not this one, I made the same mistake.
Thanks for trying.

Looks good Yummymummy. Bit nervous about size of family and spelling of name but well worth further investigation..........cheers
Alan

At last I've found it! Good spelling, eh!!
1891:
Name: Hannah Mlyncuse
Age: 54
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1837
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: William
Gender: Female
Where born: Liverpool, Lancashire, England

Civil Parish: Toxteth Park
Ecclesiastical parish: St Philemon
Town: Liverpool
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Toxteth Park
Sub registration district: Toxteth Park
ED, institution, or vessel: 60
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Albert Mlyncuse 16
Hannah Mlyncuse 54
Herbert Mlyncuse 14
William Mlyncuse 58

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Well done.... I had to leave for a while.
Great mistranscription !

Gwyn

I have stupidly managed to duplicate an order for BMD certs., also a couple that are regretfully not mine !
Has any one else messed up like this and do you think its worth trying to list them just for the price I paid plus postage ?
Any thoughts please ?
Mary

May be worth checking out for William's dad, Thomas. He is a cordwainer (shoemaker). If this right, then William has 2 siblings here:

1851 England Census
about Thomas Mollyneux
Name: Thomas Mollyneux
Age: 53
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1798
Relation: Head
Gender: Male
Where born: Manchestr

Civil Parish: Manchester
Ecclesiastical parish: St Michael
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability:

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Registration district: Manchester
Sub registration district: St George
ED, institution, or vessel: 1z
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 115
Household Members:
Name Age
Isaac Mollyneux 12
Thomas Mollyneux 53
Thomas Mollyneux 16

Thank you Blossom, think you've cracked it. Never reckoned on the spelling. Also appreciate the efforts and willingness from Gwyn, Yummymummy, and Jim. Now I know what this site is for, hope I can be of assistance in future.
Alan

yes Mary i wondered that i have 5 i do not want. Pam