Genealogy Chat

Potty

You were right about the birth certs. Christine gave me a web address explaining what can appear in col 5. On the certs I have of the four boys her maiden name is Little and no other names are shown.

Graham

Hazel

It looks a good match. I have just looked at a web address that Christine gave me, explaining about the entires that are shown for the mother on birth certs. Bearing this in mind the names given on the four birth certs for their sons shows the mother as Mary Ann Vincent maiden name Little. There are no other names.

Graham

Christine

That's the right family in the 1861 census. Except Joseph was not 7. There was a mistake made in in the census. It should have been 2, I found him on free BMD and got his birth cert.

Graham

Potty

The childerns names were George Walter b1854 Whitechapel London, Frederick James b1857 Whitechapel London, Joseph John b 1860 Shoreditch London and John William b 1862 Kings college hospital Strand London.

Graham

Reggie

George Vincent died in June 1865. Mary remarried a William Letbe in Dec 1865.

Graham

Graham

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well I have the birth certs of dads two half siblings from his mums second marriage and there is no ref to her first married name on them. Just gives nans maiden name and the fathers name this was from 1911/13 . i guess its how the questions were asked at the time of registration

Shirley

Is this them in 1861?

1861 England Census
about George Vincent
Name: George Vincent
Age: 34
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1827
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Mary
Gender: Male
Where born: Brigton, Sussex, England

Civil Parish: Shoreditch
Ecclesiastical parish: St John the Baptist
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation: bricklayer, labourer

Condition as to marriage: View Image

Registration district: Shoreditch
Sub registration district: Hoxton Old Town
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 223
Household Members: Name Age
Frederic Vincent 4
George Vincent 34
George Vincent 6
Joseph Vincent 7
Mary Vincent 30 born Whitechapel, Middlesex


Source Citation: Class: RG9; Piece: 240; Folio: 17; Page: 39;

Christine

Children's names?

How about this? I put in George Vincent and Mary Ann. Could it be her?

Marriages Dec 1851

Roberts Mary Ann Bethnal Gn 2 156
Vincent George Bethnal G. 2 156

Cheers, Hazel

Details of children in pm

There first child was born at 23 Wellclose Square Whitechapel London 1854, the second 142 Royal Mint Street Whitechapel London 1857, the third Shoreditch London 1860 and the forth Kings college hospital Strand London 1862.

pm from Graham:

The birth cert only shows the name, surname and the maiden name of the mother. All certs have Mary Ann Vincent formerly Little.

Where and when was Mary born?

The marriage to Letbe was registered in Bethnal Green.......just for some idea of location.............

Graham,

As Potty said the birth cert should show the previous married name if she had been married before.

This site explains about certificates

http://home.clara.net/dixons/Certificates/births.htm#COL5

I have checked some George Vincent marriages where there was a female missing on the page and also Mary Little with missing partners but didn't find anything.

Christine

Maybe their marriage hasn't been transcribed yet or one name is missing.

What year was their 1st child born and area please?

Christine

If she had been married before, her former married name should have appeared on the birth certs.

Christine

I know the maiden name of my great great grandmother, which was Mary Ann Little. Her maiden name appears on the birth certificates of her four sons. I have searched for the marriage on Free BMD, covering from 1850 to 1865, but can not find any marriages of a Little to a Vincent. This leads me to think that she was a widow when she married George Vincent my great great grandfather. If this is the case then her former husbands surname name will be on the marriage certificate.


In 1865 George died and Mary married William Letbe. On their marriage certificate it has Mary Ann Vincent widow.


From Graham

You only need one name to order the cert.

You can search Free BMD with Christian name for spouse.

If you post the details, I'll look.

Did you delete the previous thread?

Christine

Can anybody help?

I am looking for a marriage of my great great grandfather. His wife my have been a widow, if this is the case then the surname name on the marriage certificate will be different. Is there any way of finding the marriage?

Graham