Genealogy Chat

I have just found my first 'born abroad' relation.

she was either born, according to census, in the USA, or to family folklore on board ship coming back to UK.

how do I try and find out further info please, I have no idea of the name of the ship, just a year of birth - 1885

Carol

There are births at sea on findmypast, 1854 to 1890, pay per view.

Gail.

Hi Linda, what a generous offer- yes please!
she is Ethel Christine/a Hopper, dob 1885 (or was aged 30 at date of marriage in 1915 at least).

on a couple of census I have she was born in Ohio, but family legend says born on a boat! father Edward Hopper (as on m/cert)

many thanks, Carol

Is this her father?

1871 England Census
about Edward Hopper
Name: Edward Hopper
Age: 16
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1855
Relation: Son
Father's Name: John
Mother's Name: Isabella
Gender: Male
Where born: Rochester
Civil Parish: St Margaret
Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter
County/Island: Kent
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image
Registration district: Medway
Sub-registration district: Rochester
ED, institution, or vessel: 10
Household schedule number: 317
Household Members: Name Age
Edward Hopper 16
Franci Hopper 3
Frederick Hopper 18
George Hopper 8
Harriet Hopper 20
Harry Hopper 10
Isabella Hopper 43
Isabella Hopper 12
John Hopper 46

1881 England Census
about Edward Hopper
Name: Edward Hopper
Age: 25
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1856
Relation: Son in Law
Spouse's Name: Emily M.
Gender: Male
Where born: Rochester, Kent, England

Civil Parish: Rochester St Margaret
County/Island: Kent
Country: England

Street address: 17 Morden St
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status: View Image
Occupation: Decorator

Registration district: Medway
Sub-registration district: Rochester
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Edward Hopper 25
Emily M. Hopper 24
Herbert Hopper 1
Christinia Oliver 16
Maria Oliver 47
William F. Oliver 49

Name Arrival Date Estimated Birth Year Port of Departure Ethnicity/ Nationality Ship Name View Passenger List

Edwd Hopper 4 Jun 1883 abt 1854 Liverpool, England and Queenstown, Ireland Irish City of Paris

Emily Hopper 4 Jun 1883 abt 1856 Liverpool, England and Queenstown, Ireland Irish City of Paris

Herbert Hopper 4 Jun 1883 abt 1880 Liverpool, England and Queenstown, Ireland Irish City of Paris

Says they're going to Ohio.
Rose

thanks Moggie,

have just had an email from sister in law mentioning Ethels older brother 'Bert'!, now trying to work out who is married to who etc.

thanks so much for your time in looking that up

Carol

Where are Edward and Emily in 1891 and 1901?

Rose

don't know where they are - still abroad maybe as Ethel is with family in Kent 1891 with William and and Annie Oliver as niece, and 1901 with Henry and Christina Hopper. This is the first time I have heard of Emily

thanks so much for your help everyone, I have got another generation back

I don't see Edward or Emily in the US in 1900 or later.

Rose

thanks for that, not sure whether to try and find if she was born at sea (not sure how to do that yet) or try and find birth in USA - any tips folks? bit surprised to find this connection so not sure on how to look for emigrants. funny to find this now, as our youngest son emigrated last week and the eldest one lives abroad as well-must be in the blood.

I missed the emigration gene I think. thanks everyone for your help