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Hi i have tried free bmd but no luck can some one help please.
I need a look up for Eliz a lucas? to a William Woodward 1878-1882 Manchester - Wigan.
Same Eliza to John Flynn about 1883-85.and a death for will woodward 1883-1885 near manchester, And john Flynn 1890-1909 Blyth northumberland. Many thanks Paul.

There's a marriage of Elizabeth A. Woodward to John Flynn in South Shields but not until 1919. That's much too late isn't it?

Elizabeth Alice Lucas and William Woodward, Dec. Q, 1877, Leigh. (8c 304)

Did they get married in a nonconformist church?


did they not get married at all??


sylvia

Yes i think so they had a son Joseph flynn born darfield yorks in 1885.

You need to start by locating Eliza on 1901 census..........

She was still a Woodward in 1901

Name: Joseph A Flynn
Age: 16
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1885
Relation: Son
Mother's Name: Elizabeth A
Gender: Male
Where born: Darfield, Yorkshire, England

Civil Parish: Cowpen
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary
County/Island: Northumberland
Country: England



Registration district: Tynemouth
Sub-registration district: Blyth
ED, institution, or vessel: 11
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 21
Household Members: Name Age
Isabella Blanford 55
Joseph A Flynn 16
Margaret Taylor 43
Elizabeth A Woodward 42
John Woodward 17

Uh oh! She's Elizabeth Flynn on the 91 census with son Joseph, born 1885 Darfield, Yorkshire. Also 12 yr old son Francis Flynn who happens to be 1 yr old Francis Woodward in 1881.

Thats the one Margaret she had a son Francis born in leigh. You are right to Reg thanks.
Paul.

Paul


'cos they had a son together doesnt necessarily mean they were married!



sylvia

1881 census
52 Rivington St., Atherton, Lancashire
William Woodward, head, 22, colliery dataller, born Hindley, Lancs
Elizabeth A., wife, 23, employed at home, born Chorley, lancs
Francis, son, 1, born Westleigh, Lancs

1891 census
25 Croft St., Cowpen, Yorkshire
John Flynn, head, 32, dock labourer, born Liverpool
Elizabeth, wife, 33, born Chorley, Lancs
Francis, son, 12, born Leigh, Lancs
John, son, 7, born Barnsley, YK
Joseph R., son, 6, born Darfield, YK
Plus a boarder.

I think she married John flynn when william died and Francis took him as his dad when Francis died in 1909
he was known as Frank flynn??.

Sylvia what the weather like out there my mate from work is going on holiday at the end of april to Canada
will it still be cold?? Paul.

Sorry, Paul, but the 1901 census contradicts that theory.....she called herself Woodward and said she was a widow.

There's no guarantee that William Woodward was dead when she took up with John Flynn.........and where was HE in 1901?

In the report about Francis death it said his farther identifed the body so i know what you mean Reggie.
I have a birth cert for a Joseph robert flynn 1885 and mothers name as Elizabeth alice flynn???.

Hi Paul


depends on where your mate is going.

Out here on the West Coast, it will be about 10 to 15C, probably damp (we get a lot of rain!!)

Elsewhere .......... it will be like very early spring, anywhere from 0 to 10 or 15C.

In the Rockies, mountainous areas, and up north, there is likely to be still snow around.


So he will need some warm clothes, a waterproof jacket, and good shoes (not just sandals.



sylvia

He said he's going to jasper and a train trip west.

Paul, no use asking Sylvia about the weather in Canada, she's in Lotusland, I believe.
I'm in a different part of Canada and it's snowing like crazy right now. My snowdrops that usually bloom mid-March are still under about 6 feet of snow!
Having said that, just watched the weather forecast, a sunny weekend with temp of 11 on Sat. and 13 on Sun. That's celsius.

Hi Margaret!

It's chillier than that here!!


Paul ..... if he's going to jasper, it's in the Rockies.

Could be cold

Probably will still be snow at least up on the mountains. Temperatures could be 0 or below, especially at night.

He should take stuff to layer ......... like a sweater, fleecy, or such. Plus a windproof, waterproof jacket.

The train trip to the coast is great. And .... the trains are warm!


sylvia