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Thanks all. The marriage of Frederick Archer and Margaret Ann Crossley was in the Parish Church of St John the Evangelist, Over Darwen, Lancashire in 1879. I do not believe it was a small church with infrequent services. I have never found a baptism for the groom Frederick Archer, but the bride's actual surname was probably not Crossley as she stated at marriage, but Whittaker, baptised at the Chapelry of Accrington, with no father named. Would that account for anything to do with the Superintendent Registrar's Certificate?
The marriage of her supposed parents was also at the Parochial Chapel of Accrington. So no secret there.
Would the priest of St John the Evangelist have some issue with the baptism of Margaret Ann at Accrington? With no father?
There is defintitely something odd about this marriage and Margaret Ann's birth. I have long researched it. Margaret Ann was supposedly the first born of Noah Crossley and Ann Whittaker, and she lived to the ripe old age of 85, dying in Macclesfield, Cheshire.
They had only one child, unusual for the time, Mary Ann Archer. It would seem that her parents did not bring her up, but her grandmother Ann Crossley did so. Her parents did not live far away. But sometime before 1901 they moved to Macclesfield, Cheshire, another mystery.
Mary Ann moved to Macclesfield sometime before her father's death there in 1908. She stayed in Macclesfield and married Thomas Warhurst.
In the 1920s someone in the family (I guess Mary Ann) has attempted to acquire the birth certificate of Margaret Ann (I have a copy of what they sent for back then), and the first attempt has been obviously regarded as wrong, so a couple of years later someone has instead acquired a baptismal certificate as above (I have a copy of that, too).
So any further ideas on why Frederick and Margaret Ann should be married under this unusual umbrella would be greatly received.
They might have been of different persuasions, but then so were lots of couples, and neither of them were known to be particularly connected with any religion. I cannot imagine a family squabble as several of Margaret Ann's relatives preceded or followed her to Macclesfield.
Any help gratefully received. I think this now needs a Sherlock Holmes hat!
Regards
Margaret
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Borrowed from here :- http://home.clara.net/dixons/Certifi...iages.htm#COL9
1) "by certificate" which would be found on a marriage entry in a register office marriage register or in a non-conformist marriage register. It shows that the couple waited 3 weeks between giving notice and getting married.
(2) "by licence" which would be found in the same set of registers and would indicate that the couple may have married with less than three weeks between giving the notice and getting married (minimum of 1 clear working day). However - a licence lasts three months so the marriage wasn't necessarily done in a rush. It may have been easier to give only the one licence notice rather than the two that would have been needed for a marriage by certificate if the bride and groom lived in different districts.
(3) "after banns" which can only be found in a Church of England marriage. It is the equivalent of the certificate for the register office/non-conformist churches.
(4) "by common licence" which can only be found in a Church of England marriage. The licence has been issued by the Bishop for the diocese and I believe is the equivalent of the licence in a register office or non-conformist church.
(5) "by special licence" which can only be found in a Church of England marriage. The licence has been issued by the Archbishop not the Bishop. I believe that this would allow the couple to get married in a church which is not the usual parish church for either of them but I am not sure of this.
(6) "by Registrar Generals" which could be found on any marriage certificate except for one where the marriage was by the rites of the Church of England. It is issued when one of the couple is dying and it allows a marriage ceremony to take place at any location at any time of the day or night.
(7) "By superintendent registrars certificate" is a very rare finding. It is issued for a Church of England marriage but instead of banns being called in the church, notice of marriage has been given to the superintendent registrar. In the early days this would be necessary where services were held so infrequently e.g. in a small chapel,that it was not possible to call the banns on three succesive Sundays and get married all within the three months time limit. Later on it was sometimes used as an expedient if for some reason the vicar did not want to make the forthcoming marriage in the church public knowledge and have the entry in his banns book which anyone can look at. The sort of problem might be where a bride and groom were of different persuasions and the vicar either didn't want the congregtion in general to know or even the bride/grooms family if he thought they might try to disrupt the ceremony. It is sometimes used these days when one of the couple is divorced and the vicar does not want it generally known that he is marrying a divorcee in his church.
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I know about marriage by Banns, and marriage by licence, but does anyone know what the above means? It is a marrage in 1879 in Lancashire.
Regards
Margaret
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