Genealogy Chat

So far I have found a relative in 1785 but unable to get to 1760 .
Can anyone tell me why pls ?

GALA

Sorry, I don't understand the question.

Where have you found the relative, and what are you looking for?

I found my grt,grt,grt grandfather thomas Henshaw ..London, Middlesex : 1785 but I can't find his father on Ancestry site ,
I hope you can follow this ...sorry Mary

Mary : I can only get as far as 1841 census as there's no 1831 ...

Not everything is on Ancestry or even online anywhere.

There comes a time when you may have to do research in records offices.

Sue

Hi Gala, You have done well to get this far and now you will need to search parish records looking for his birth. That will give you his parents (or sometimes only the father will be listed). Wills can be useful too. I was able to trace back to 1625 from the 1841 census, so don´t be discouraged, and there are lots of people on here, (more experienced than I am) who can give you lots of tips on how to do it. Good luck.

Run a search on Thomas Henshaw, England on Family Search (www.familysearch.org). If you then select the IGI files, you will be able to refine the search to Middlesex and a suitable time period. There may be information there for you.

bol

Hi bol,
I tried the IGI files and there was no results.
Thanks for the tip .
GALA

Hi Chica in the sun,
How would I look for the parish records if I don't actually know where he was born.?
You have done really well to get to 1625, WOW !
It is hard doing the family research as i only started doing it last year .
Thanks .
GALA

You haven't made it very clear if you have found Thomas Henshaw's marriage or estimated his birth as 1785.

In which part of London did you find his record?

There is a Thos.Henshaw baptised 01 JAN 1753 Saint George In The East, Stepney, London
That one is the son of a Will. and Mary Henshaw.

There is also a Thomas baptised 21 APR 1765 All Hallows The Less, London, London, England
He is the son of Daniel and Sarah

There may be others.

What else do you know about your Thomas?
Where was he married and to whom? Do you know his occupation? Look carefully at his choice of names for his children. Are any perhaps likely to be named after grandparents?

At this stage you need to collect any useful information you can find about possible members of the family. It is worth saving ones who may turn out to be cousins or other relations.

Sue

Hi Sue,
I am hopeless doing this family research :-(
I normally get a bit of help from both my sons but they live in Berkshire and I live in Scotland.

I actually found him on ancestry saying he was born in London Middlesex in 1785 , married to Ellen ( surname not known yet ) of Neston ,Cheshire, they had 7 children and he was a shoe maker , That is all I know .I have a copy of it .

Sue , The children were called
Ann;b 1816
Thomas;b 1819
Elisabeth;b 1820 --notice the S in her name.
Rebeccah;b 1827
William;b 1828...he later moved to Burnley,
Cathrine;b 1832.
Sarah; b 1834

George; b ???
Mary;b ???

It looks as though the children were born in Neston, Cheshire, and Thomas and Ellen were presumably married there. According to the Hugh Wallis site, Neston records aren't on the IGI yet, apart from some 17th-century marriages.

See if you can find anything on the Cheshire Parish Registers site:

http://www.csc.liv.ac.uk/~cprdb/

I've had a very quick look, and some of the children's baptisms seem to be there.

Hi Mary ,
I went on the site you told me to look up and I did find it very interesting also I found there was 2 more children but I couldn't find Thomas & Ellen's marriage, I really couldn't follow the dates and age numbers.
Thank you for your help Mary .

As it explains on the site, you have to add a 1 onto the beginning of the number to get the date, e.g. 8190520 means 20th May 1819.

Did you notice that William wasn't their child? Don't forget that the 1841 census doesn't show relationships, and it was fairly clear that he wasn't theirs because his name was shown after all the other children. He was the illegitimate son of a Mary Henshaw, who was presumably a relation of theirs.

If the marriage isn't there, they were presumably married somewhere else, which is a pity.

When was the first child born? The only likely marriage I can see on the IGI is in Liverpool in 1809, but the IGI isn't complete.

Hi Mary , Ah ! now then , about the numbers , it seem that they are back to front like the americans ,
.
The first child Anne was born 1819 , William was born 1829. I did noticed about William being an illegitimate son of Mary Henshaw so Henry & Ellen are not my ancestors after all ??.
I wonder if Henry & Ellen were married in London , Middlesex .?

I had a really good look at the Cheshire Parish database ...Mary was the 1st born in 1810 , so I think William was her child as she would have been 18 yrs old.