Genealogy Chat

Why would the age space on a census be left blank? Would the child in question just have been born. It was 1881.

Gypsyjoe

Are there older children and if so how old was the next one up.

Ann
Glos

\who was it - Can we take a look for you ?

Dea x

Her name was Minnie Ellis on the 1881 census.

Parents are William and Ann.

Siblings are Annie, Harry, James, May, and William.

I'd have a look at other censuses but I can't get them to accept my Maestro card.

Gypsyjoe

Best thing to do is to look at the orignal.
If you dont have access to Ancestry....put the details on here and someone will look for you....

(name,county,census )
Gerri

County?

She was 7 months old - I will explore!

Dea x

1881 England Census
about Minnie Ellis
Name: Minnie Ellis
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: William
Mother's Name: Annie
Gender: Female
Where born: Mile End Old Town

Civil Parish: Hamlet
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street address: 53 Nelson St
Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Mile End Old Town
Sub-registration district: Mile End Old Town, Western
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Annie Ellis 37
Annie Ellis 9
Harry Ellis 3
James Ellis 12
May Ellis 7
Minnie Ellis 7 months
William Ellis 40 ..occupation...Nautical...something? something?
Wm. Ellis 10
William Smith 30

Census night in 1881 was 3 April.
Now take 7 months off that....October..ish 1880?

Maybe? and most likley!
Minnie Ellis
Year of Registration: 1880
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
District: Mile End Old Town
County: London, Middlesex
Volume: 1c
Page: 485


Gerri

The image says she is 7 months. It's just the transcriber who has left the age off the transcription.

Kath. x

Births Sep 1880
ELLIS Minnie Mile End 1c 485

Dea x

Yes, I find sometimes if a person's age is in weeks, months or even days, it doesn't always make it onto the "transcribed" Ancestry search. But when I check the image, the age is usually there.

Ahhh thanks guys

I have William on the birth certificate of May Eliza (daughter) as a commercial traveller though on her (May's) Marriage certificate he's an optician.

Who knows

Gypsyjoe

Gyspiejoe,

Pllease forgive me, but we have all been 'working our socks off here' but do you actually care ???????

"he's an optician. - Who knows" ???????

If you DO - we are here to help!


Dea



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Dea.

Cool down.I dont think Gypsy Joe meant he didnt care. Its just there is a difference in occupations so who knows( which is the correct one?)

Its a figure of speech

Gypsyjoe

Maybe she was trying to impress the new inlaws? lol

Perhaps he sold optical glasses,,,,they didnt have -Opticians as we know them today,,,they were made up and people choose what best they could see better with,,
Opticians also sold telescopes....

I had the same impression as Margaret as to Gypsy Joe's meaning and demeanour.

Didn't read it as him being flippant, Dea.

Hope that's not put him off returning to the thread.

Hi all,

The problem with the 'written word' is that it can be read in many different ways !

What I read in Gypsyjoe's message was an 'acceptance of defeat',

"Ahhh thanks guys................... Who knows.........."

yet he/she seems to have more information to be explored !

What my message was meant to say was that you can't just 'give up' on something so easily - you have to 'really care' about every little bit of research you are exploring and keep at it !

We were all here working on this and all willing to continue - In my (obviously very poor) way, I was trying to get him/her to want to do the same.

My final comment on there:

"If you DO - we are here to help!"

was, I thought, inviting him/her to continue working with us and give more information.

I hope this explanation has 'cleared up' this situation and I apologise if anyone has been upset.

Dea x

PS - I will send a PM to Gypsyjoe, with an apology as, I too would be upset to think that I had put anyone off from asking for help.

Dea no offence taken, it was a figure of speech.

As for the opticians selling telescopes then that could make sense if he was the commercial traveller selling nautical instrument which I did find one William doing.

As for insulting me or me not caring well, neither is likely.

I'm an Aussie so it's just the way we come across. I care or I wouldn't be spending my time working on this. I love history and what's more interesting than your own family history.

Also just to let you know I'm female even though it's spelt the male way. I spell it with an 'E' because it looks more like a name and I like to be different.

Don't worry I'm not giving up on the tree, not yet anyway. When I have found that I can go no further then I might. It's half the reason I'm currently working and living in the UK.

Gypsyjoe

I have found several references to 'optician and nautical instrument maker' as a profession.

I would certainly explore that one as a possibility !

Dea x