Genealogy Chat

Hi all,

I am following a relative who appears to have been born in the East Indies and my Geography knowledge is 'sadly lacking' - I have tried googling but am just getting more confused.

On 1871 - I have William Wilson born c 1843 East Indies - looks like Bellany !

On 1851 he appears to be in Liverpool with his parents - all marked as 'british subject'

Can't find him on 1861 just at the minute.

Any Ideas on how I can find his birth etc and where Bellany was?

Any help of information much appreciated.

Thanks,

Dea x

Just for reference, this is the family in 1851:-

Name: Willm Wilson
Age: 10
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1841
Relation: Son
Father's Name: John
Mother's Name: Martha
Gender: Male
Where born: British Subject

Civil Parish: Liverpool
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image

Registration district: Liverpool
Sub-registration district: St Thomas
ED, institution, or vessel: 1c
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 264
Household Members: Name Age

John Harrison 72 - lodger
George Milburn 54 - lodger
Ann Jane Wilson 17 - sister (or sister's daughter) born Ireland
John Wilson 32 - porter, employed
Martha Wilson 27 - house affairs
Willm Wilson 10 - scholar

Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece: 2181; Folio: 96; Page: 79; GSU roll: 87181-87182.

Kath. x

Thanks Kath - Yes, that's him on 1851

Lynne - I really don't know very much - his father looks like he was a porter/employer? on 1851 - Can't find him anywhere else yet.

Dea x

Have to go out for a bit - will check back later.

Dea x

Just a possibility that this is John Wilson in the 1841 census (living in the same parish as in 1851 and occupation mariner, born Foreign Parts).

Name: John Wilson
Age: 20
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1821
Gender: Male
Where born: Foreign Parts

Civil Parish: Liverpool
Hundred: Liverpool
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address: 65 Norfolk Street

Occupation: Mariner

Registration district: Liverpool
Sub-registration district: St Thomas
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age

Benjn Beverly 20
James Beverly 15
John Carter 30
Jas Engleman 30
John Lyons 20
Ann McQuart 15
Alex Power 40
Margaret Power 40
Richd Stossel 20
Rosanah Thomas 20
Job Thompson 25
Jos Thompson 25
Henry Ward 20
John Wilson 20

Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece 566; Book: 12; Civil Parish: Liverpool; County: Lancashire; Enumeration District: 24; Folio: 36; Page: 24; Line: 2; GSU roll: 438718.

Kath. x

Thanks Kath,

I had just decided you had found a VERY probable for me on the 1841 but wondered where Martha might be so had a further look around.

THEN - I found her + John + William - 6 months old - still at the same address as on 1851

Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece 566; Book: 19; Civil Parish: Liverpool; County: Lancashire; Enumeration District: 35; Folio: 6; Page: 4; Line: 16; GSU roll: 438718.

My problem now is - on this census they were all born in County !!!!

SSoooo confusing !

Dea x

Still looking into this (getting nowhere at the moment)

Would still appreciate info on 'Bellany' ?? - East Indies please.

Dea x

The Bellany placename does not produce any results from Googling, but there is a Bellamy in Kuala Lumpur (Malaysia). This may be only a road name though.

Multimap comes up with lts of variations on Bellany - eg Belene etc.

If noted as british subjects on the census, would the birth be listed at GRO as one of the overseas births?

Thank you Ivy,

I am REALLY stuck on this one.

I can't find anything on overseas births.

Any help appreciated, no matter how small !

Dea x

Looks like Bellang to me which is in the Philippines.

Rose

OOOOppps !!

Thank you Portland Rose - I will follow your suggestion - However, I think I will wait till morning when I am more awake!!

Just googled 'Bellang' and got a whole load of 'very naughty' sites come up.

It looks like a very interesting place.!

Will let you know how I get on tomorrow.

Dea x