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Jean

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Jean- the original posting is very old- if you want to make contact with Deborah, try sending her a private message.

For ref- this is the death

Names: ERNEST A BELL
Gender Male
Birth year 1919
Age 0
Death quarter 1
Death year 1919
District BOSTON
County Lincolnshire
Volume 7A
Page 669
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and birth:

Names: ERNEST A BELL
Birth year 1919
Birth quarter 1
Mother's last name IZZARD
District BOSTON
County Lincolnshire
Volume 7A
Page 490

Hi Deborah, I have found a brother Ernest born in the 1st Quarter of 1919 I haven't found his death yet but will let you know when I do. he is of the same family as Fanny a sister is my brother-in-laws mother, hope this helps.

I think it does say Izzard and not Issard. Look at the other S instances on the page.

I think you would need to order the death cert. to see where he died and then look for the nearest cemetary.

Rose

Deborah

That must be him. One of Alice's siblings is listed as Issard on FreeBMD.

Rose

I cant believe it but i think i found my grandads brother...i wish i could share this news with him !!!
ERNEST A BELL died age 0 Boston 7a 669 mother maiden name ISSARD ...it says issard not IZZARD so maybe thats the confusion?? Does anyone think this may be him?? Is there anyway to find out who the parents of someone was without paying for a birth certificate> I just want to be doubly sure....it seems alice must have been pregnant when they married, perhaps the baby was premature also?? Time will tell, thanks everyone for your help.....i think maybe i have found both babies....now i have th uphill struggle of finding where the babies were buried (any hints on where to begin please??) and where my grandads mother is buried

Just a thought but i suppose alice could have been pregnant when they married? That would allow a baby to be born bell before my grandad.

Another thought on this
My 1920's deaths are not in the churchyard but at the local cemetery. The local council should be able to check this for you.


Also thanks Rose

Hi Deborah

If you are going to order Cyril Ward's cert...best to go with birth as would give you details on Mum / Dad. Death certs I have received don't go into details on parentage and only list name of person providing details.

You can order on-line from the GRO or write direct to the registry office in the county.

Sue

To assist on this
Arthur & Alice were married Q4 1918
Son Arthur was born Feb 1920
This leaves a very small window where an elder sibling could be born as Bell.
I did find a possibilty but the baby's name wasn't Ernest so could someone else please have a look & give an opinion?
Thanks

Hi all,
thanks again for yet more help!

I have been emailed tonight by a relative who is trying to help, he insists family member have said a baby BOY was born BEFORE my grandad Arthur bell (1920).

It is possible the baby was named ERNEST
?BELL ?IZZARD

i am hopeful about the suggestion for my nans baby brother,CYRIL WARD 1924 , i will order a death certificate once i find out how/where/how much etc?

I have no clues re finding my grandmothers grave (alice maud sarah fairweather izzard), possibly swineshead churchyard,near boston, lincolnshire likely unmarked. I guess i will have to locate the new church warden and turn up at his front door and plead for help ;-) My grandads ashes are being held in the hope we can put him to rest with his mother or brother.

Looks like one of Alice's brother's died too:

Births Jun 1903
IZZARD Arthur James G P Boston 7a 434

Deaths Sep 1903
Izzard Arthur 0 Boston 7a 211

Perhaps the story was a little muddled and it was Alice's brother that died at 6 weeks?

Rose

There is this:

Births Jun 1915
Izzard Joseph W Izzard Boston 7a 738

Deaths Jun 1915
Izzard Joseph W 0 Boston 7a 484

Rose

Here's the marriage:

Marriages Dec 1918
Bell Arthur Izzard Boston 7a 967
Izzard Alice M S F Bell Boston 7a 967

Perhaps the baby was born an Izzard?

Rose

James A Bell born Grimsby was born to a mother with maiden name Smith, so that's not the one.

Rose

wow, thanks so much everyone, its amazing that so many people are willing to help me, it means more than i can say to find these amily members. i will try and investigate further all your findings, i anyone else can help please do. Thanks thanks thanks !!!!

Hi Deborah,

I've been doing a little digging through births and deaths for your granddad's baby brother.

I found 5 infant deaths and by cross-checking with births, was able to elliminate 4, leaving only James A Bell. His death was registered but I haven't been able to find his birth ref. I'm wondering if his parents didn't register his birth at all.


Name: James A Bell
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1918
Year of Registration: 1918
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
Age at Death: 0
District: Grimsby
County: Humberside, Lincolnshire
Volume: 7a
Page: 654



If you decide to order this cert, you could always put a ref check on his parents names.



Deb:)

Here is Cyril's death record:

Cyril Ward qJFM 1924 Boston 7a 567 age 0

Sue

Hi Deborah

Think have your Nan's brother
Cyril Ward mmm Cox qJFM 1924 Boston 7a 682

Sue

I think I've found Arthur's brother's birth & death but thought it best to send the info by PM