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Ron Beat Hi again 1871 Name: Barbbra Roe Age: 28 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1843 Relation: Wife Spouses's Name: Frederick Gender: Female Where born: Carlton le Moorland, Lincolnshire, England Civil Parish: North Scarle Town: North Scarle County/Island: Lincolnshire Country: England Registration district: Newark Sub-registration district: North Collingham ED, institution, or vessel: 5 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 80 Household Members: Name Age Barbbra Roe 28 abt 1843 Carlton le Moorland, Lincolnshire, England Wife Frederick Roe 29 abt 1842 North Scarle, Lincolnshire, England Son Elizabeth Wells 56 Joseph Wells 49 ************************** 1881 Name: Barbara Roe Age: 38 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1843 Relation: Wife Spouses's Name: Frederick Gender: Female Where Born: North Scarle, Lincoln, England Civil parish: North Scarle County/Island: Lincolnshire Country: England Condition as to marriage: Married Education: Employment status: View image Occupation: Ag Lab Wife Registration district: Newark Sub registration district: North Collingham ED, institution, or vessel: 5 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Barbara Roe 38 North Scarle, Lincoln, England Emma Roe 4 North Scarle, Lincoln, England Frederick Roe 39 North Scarle, Lincoln, England *************************** 1891 Name: Barbara Roe Age: 48 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1843 Relation: Wife Spouses's Name: Frederic Gender: Female Where Born: Carlton le Moorland, Lincolnshire, England Civil parish: North Scarle Ecclesiastical parish: North Scarle Town: North Scarle County/Island: Lincolnshire Country: England Registration district: Newark Sub registration district: North Collingham ED, institution, or vessel: 5 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Barbara Roe 48 Carlton le Moorland, Lincolnshire, England abt 1843 Emma Roe 14 North Scarle, Lincolnshire, England 1877 Frederic Roe 49 North Scarle, Lincolnshire, England abt 1842 ************************** 1901 - Got them !! A little topsy turvey but... Name: Barbara Rae Age: 58 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1843 Relation: Daughter Father's name: Joseph Gender: Female Where born: Carlton le Moorland, Lincolnshire, England Civil parish: North Scarle Ecclesiastical parish: North Scarle All Saints Town: North Scarle County/Island: Lincolnshire Country: England Street address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: Education: Employment status: View image Registration district: Newark Sub-registration district: North Collingham ED, institution, or vessel: 5 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 104 Household Members: Name Age Barbara Rae 58 Carlton le Moorland, Lincolnshire, England abt 1843 daughter Emma Rae 24 North Scarle, Lincolnshire, England abt 1877 daughter Frederick Rae 59 North Scarle, Lincolnshire, England abt 1842 son Mary J Rae 1 North Scarle, Lincolnshire, England abt 1900 Granddaughter Joseph Wells 78 North Scarle, Lincolnshire, England abt 1823 head Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 3195; Folio: 66; Page: 15. Address - Village Occupation of Josph - General Lab unable to work - Widower Occupation of Frederic - Agricultural machinist Occupation of Emma - Domestic servant (**note that a line has been put through this - so maybe they changed their minds about this info ?) The image actually reads Frederic as SON and Barbara is down as D in Law Pen x

Ann Freestone Hi, the only one I can see at the mo is this - 1851 Name: Mary Gardner Age: 30 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1821 Relation: Wife Spouses's Name: Fredrick Gender: Female Where born: Carlisle, Cumberland, England Civil parish: Abbey Street County/Island: Cumberland Country: England Street address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: Disability: View image Registration district: Carlisle Sub-registration district: St Mary ED, institution, or vessel: 4 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 183 Household Members: Name Age Fredrick Gardner 40 George Gardner 1 Mary Gardner 30 Will have to come back to this one later Pen x

Hi Pen. You asked for Father's name of Mary Jane Roe. I only have her mothers data as per my original request but I do have her grandparents - Frederick Roe born 1841 died 1921 and Barbara Roe (don't know maiden name) born 1841 died 1906. No place of birth given in family bible but as Mary Jane Roe supposed to have been born North or South Scarle could be possible grandparents there as well. I'll get in touch with my cousins to see if I can extract any more info but only just started meeting up with them. Regards Ron

Thank you Pen, I was hoping that the elderly Fred Roberts would be living with relatives, but obviously not to be! Thanks anyway, Kev.

ref: 1841 Scotland census lookup. Hello Pen, I originally found my SCOTT, James, born 1827c Bo'ness, Linlithgow, West Lothian on 1871 census Barony , St Mark, Glasgow aged 45 years with wife Mary and children. From LDS I was then able to trace his parents and siblings back to Bo'ness. I assumed that in 1841 they were still there. Maybe they had already moved to Barony where he married Mary McFarlane (see below) in 1847? McFarlane family, once again I have the birth of Mary and her siblings born Barony, Glasgow and assumed that in 1841 this was where the family would be residing, given her marriage to James SCOTT in 1847. Sorry am I making sense :-) Appreciate all your help Pen, my lot are certainly to proving to be very elusive. bye Helen

Added by Kerri Young on 27/08/2006 06:57:42 Hi Pen Could you please find & follow through census David Betts (or Bates) b 1831 Teston,Kent. In 1851 he was aged 19,unmarried, occupation Gardener,living with his mother Susan Betts & siblings Susan,James & Edward.(In 1841 the family is listed as Bates).In 1881 David Betts was aged 50 married to Mary b 1832 West Farleigh,Kent with children,Arthur 1859 (b Barming),Frank 1866(b Maidstone as are all rest),Rose 1868,Herbert 1872,Allen 1873 & Emily 1876 Thanks Kerri ********************************************************* 1861 Name: David Betts Age: 29 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1832 Relation: Head Spouses's Name: Mary Gender: Male Where born: Teston, Kent, England Civil parish: Rochester St Margaret Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter County/Island: Kent Country: England Registration district: Medway Sub-registration district: Rochester ED, institution, or vessel: 13 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 139 Household Members: Name Age Anne Betts 5 abt 1856 Teston Daughter Arthur Betts 2 abt 1859 Barning, Kent, England Son David Betts 29 abt 1832 Teston, Kent, England Head Henry Betts 3 Mo abt 1861 St Margaret, Kent, England Son Mary Betts 28 abt 1833 Teston; West Farleigh Wife Mary Betts 7 abt 1854 Teston; West Farleigh Daughter Source Citation: Class: RG9; Piece: 477; Folio: 102; Page: 27; GSU roll: 542646. ************************************************** 1871 Name: David Betts Age: 40 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1831 Relation: Head Spouses's Name: Mary Gender: Male Where born: Teston, Kent, England Civil Parish: Maidstone Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter County/Island: Kent Country: England Registration district: Maidstone Sub-registration district: West Maidstone ED, institution, or vessel: 13 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 7 Household Members: Name Age Albert Betts 7 abt 1864 Hollingbourne, Kent, England Son Arthur Betts 12 abt 1859 Barming, Kent, England Son David Betts 40 abt 1831 Teston, Kent, England Head Frank Betts 5 abt 1866 Hollingbourne, Kent, England Son Henry Betts 10 abt 1861 Rochester, Kent, England Son Mary Betts 39 abt 1832 Farleigh, Kent, England Wife Rose Betts 3 abt 1868 Maidstone, Kent, England Daughter Source Citation: Class: RG10; Piece: 942; Folio: 24; Page: 2; GSU roll: 838713. *************************************************** 1881 You already have *************************************************** 1891 Name: David Betts Age: 59 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1832 Relation: Head Spouses's Name: Mary Gender: Male Where Born: Teston, Kent, England Civil parish: Maidstone Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Trinity County/Island: Kent Country: England Registration district: Maidstone Sub registration district: East Maidstone ED, institution, or vessel: 6 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Alan I Betts 18 abt 1873 Maidstone, Kent, England Son David Betts 59 abt 1832 Teston, Kent, England Head Earnest H Betts 19 abt 1872 Maidstone, Kent, England Son Mary Betts 58 abt 1833 West Farleigh, Kent, England Wife Athenesa A Warren 6 abt 1885 Maidstone, Kent, England Granddaughter Mary E E Warren 4 abt 1887 Maidstone, Kent, England Granddaughter Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 689; Folio 96; Page 13; GSU roll: 6095799. *************************************************** 1901 Name: David Betts Age: 69 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1832 Relation: Head Gender: Male Where born: Teston, Kent, England Civil parish: Maidstone Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Trinity County/Island: Kent Country: England Registration district: Maidstone Sub-registration district: Maidstone ED, institution, or vessel: 9 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 81 Household Members: Name Age David Betts 69 abt 1832 Teston, Kent, England Head Mary Betts 46 abt 1855 West Farleigh, Kent, England Daughter Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 766; Folio: 10; Page: 12. Pen x X

Added by Helen Galea on 27/08/2006 01:46:01 Hello Penelope, any chance you could look up the following family on 1841 Scotland census. Piece: SCT1841/663 Place: Bo'ness,West Lothian SCOTT James, head, <45>, born Bo'ness, West Lothian SCOTT, Elisabeth, wife, <44> born Linlithgow, West Lothian SCOTT, Elizabeth, dau, <17>born Bo'ness, West Lothian SCOTT, James, son, <13> born Bo'ness, West Lothian SCOTT, John, son <11>, born Bo'ness, West Lothian SCOTT, Euphemia, dau <7>, born Bo'ness, West Lothian also if it not imposing, could I ask for another lookup please? I think this is the correct information; Piece: SCT1841/622 , Place: Barony-Lanarkshire McFARLAN(e) Francis, head, no pob details McFARLAN(e) Jean, wife, ditto McFARLAN(e), Mary, <15yrs>, born Barony, Lanark McFARLAN(e), James, <12>, born Barony, Lanark. Appreciate all your help. Bye, Helen *************************************************** Can not bring up the details for the first family... or the 2nd one. Is the info that you have supplied from an Index? Pen x

Added by Ronald Beat on 26/08/2006 22:14:05 Hi Pen. You came up with 'the goods' on an earlier query of mine thank you so hope you can help with this. I have a Mary Jane Roe born 1899 according to a family bible but no place of birth. However one of her sons says she was born in either North Scarle Lincolnshire or South Scarle Nottinghamshire. Could you have a 'neb' at the 1901 census please and see if she's shown need to know about all the family. Her mother would have been Emma Roe born 1876 no maiden name. Many thanks. Ron **************************************************** I can not spot her at the mo - what was the fathers name? Pen x

Added by Kevin Clark on 26/08/2006 19:26:33 Hi Pen, Can you please look up my gggf Frederick Roberts (c1835-1903) in 1891 & 1901, in Bethnal Green/Shoreditch area of London east end. In 1881 was living with wife Martha (c1835-1897) & children Frederick, Martha, Rosina & Charlotte. Many thanks, Kev ****************************************************** 1881 for my ref .......... as I need the birthplaces and all ages with such a common surname. I myself have Robert's in Bethnal Green ! Name: Frederick Roberts Age: 47 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1834 Relation: Head Spouses's Name: Martha Gender: Male Where Born: Hoxton Civil parish: Bethnal Green County/Island: London Country: England Street address: 15 Half Nichol St. Condition as to marriage: Married Education: Employment status: View image Occupation: Carpenter Registration district: Bethnal Green Sub registration district: Hackney Road ED, institution, or vessel: 2 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Charlotte Roberts 8 abt 1873 Bethnal Green Daughter Frederick Roberts 47 abt 1834 Hoxton Head Frederick Roberts 26 abt 1855 Bethnal Green Son Martha Roberts 45 abt 1836 Bethnal Green Wife Martha Roberts 19 abt 1862 Bethnal Green Daughter Rosena Roberts 12 abt 1869 Bethnal Green Daughter *************************** 1891 ?? unable to spot them ************************** 1901 Name: Frederick Roberts Age: 67 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1834 Relation: Inmate Gender: Male Where born: Hoxton, London, England Civil parish: Bethnal Green Ecclesiastical parish: St John County/Island: London Country: England Registration district: Bethnal Green Sub-registration district: Bethnal Green, East ED, institution, or vessel: Bethnal Green Workhouse Household schedule number: 1 Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 296; Folio: 128; Page: 43. Have looked at the image - He is down as a widower - Occupation looks like (big pen line though part of it) Bar fitter House fit Pen x

Hi Pen Could you please find & follow through census David Betts (or Bates) b 1831 Teston,Kent. In 1851 he was aged 19,unmarried, occupation Gardener,living with his mother Susan Betts & siblings Susan,James & Edward.(In 1841 the family is listed as Bates).In 1881 David Betts was aged 50 married to Mary b 1832 West Farleigh,Kent with children,Arthur 1859 (b Barming),Frank 1866(b Maidstone as are all rest),Rose 1868,Herbert 1872,Allen 1873 & Emily 1876 Thanks Kerri

Hello Penelope, any chance you could look up the following family on 1841 Scotland census. Piece: SCT1841/663 Place: Bo'ness,West Lothian SCOTT James, head, <45>, born Bo'ness, West Lothian SCOTT, Elisabeth, wife, <44> born Linlithgow, West Lothian SCOTT, Elizabeth, dau, <17>born Bo'ness, West Lothian SCOTT, James, son, <13> born Bo'ness, West Lothian SCOTT, John, son <11>, born Bo'ness, West Lothian SCOTT, Euphemia, dau <7>, born Bo'ness, West Lothian also if it not imposing, could I ask for another lookup please? I think this is the correct information; Piece: SCT1841/622 , Place: Barony-Lanarkshire McFARLAN(e) Francis, head, no pob details McFARLAN(e) Jean, wife, ditto McFARLAN(e), Mary, <15yrs>, born Barony, Lanark McFARLAN(e), James, <12>, born Barony, Lanark. Appreciate all your help. Bye, Helen

Thanks Pen. That gives me something to work on. Much appreciated.

Hi Pen. You came up with 'the goods' on an earlier query of mine thank you so hope you can help with this. I have a Mary Jane Roe born 1899 according to a family bible but no place of birth. However one of her sons says she was born in either North Scarle Lincolnshire or South Scarle Nottinghamshire. Could you have a 'neb' at the 1901 census please and see if she's shown need to know about all the family. Her mother would have been Emma Roe born 1876 no maiden name. Many thanks. Ron

Hi Pen, Can you please look up my gggf Frederick Roberts (c1835-1903) in 1891 & 1901, in Bethnal Green/Shoreditch area of London east end. In 1881 was living with wife Martha (c1835-1897) & children Frederick, Martha, Rosina & Charlotte. Many thanks, Kev

NOTES ONLT AT THE MO 1841 Image reads Zaccheus View Record Charles Fear abt 1807 Salford Lancashire View Record Mary Fear abt 1801 Salford Lancashire View Record Minda Fear abt 1831 Salford Lancashire View Record Sarah Ann Fear abt 1834 Lancashire, England Salford Lancashire View Record Zacckins Fear abt 1829 Salford Lancashire Source information: HO107/586/10 Registration district: Salford Sub-registration district: Regent Road ED, institution, or vessel: 17 Folio: 30 Page: 5 (click to see others on page) Line number: 22 GSU Number: 438739 *************************** 1851 - This might be him - I have searched everything else, lol The name is just, impossible to read ....Ancestry have not even attempted it ! Name: Fear Age: 21 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1830 Relation: Nephew Gender: Male Where born: Cheadle, Cheshire, England Civil parish: Stockport Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary Town: Stockport County/Island: Cheshire Country: England Registration district: Stockport Sub-registration district: Stockport ED, institution, or vessel: 3u Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 3 Household Members: Name Age Fear 21 *** Elizabeth Fear 17 Ester Fear 43 James Fear 12 Jane Fear 5 John Fear 41 Joseph F Fear 20 Priscille Fear 8 Sarah Fear 10 Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece: 2156; Folio: 746; Page: 2; GSU roll: 87132-87133.

Hi Pen. Dont know if you can help but worth a try. I have Zaccheus Fletcher Fear, married Esther Harter June 1854 in Stockport Cheshire. I know his father was William Fear and mother Sarah (nee unknown). Sorry thats all info I have. Was wondering if its possible to find any of them in the Census with so little info. Or if not you may be able to point me in the right direction. I have tried IGI and BIVRI. Thanks again Colleen.

Hi, I'm back...did anyone miss me, lol ? Well the pig saga continues, we have just spent the last couple of days erecting 360 ft of fencing. I am shattered and I had the easy jobs, lol. Will check back later to see if anyone wants anything. Pen x

Hi Penelope, re 1841 Scotland -please can you help find this Barr family: Isobella 4 (b1836) Isobella 34 (b1806) James 7 (b1833) William 23 (b1817) (If you have 1851 census too - that would be great - they came out to 'Oz' in 1857) Thanks for any help you can give. - Valerie

Dear Pen Could I see the David Ballantyne from Selkirkshire please? His wife could be Margaret...but may be not! I'm trying to pin him down without enough info I know. Thanks, Toni

Hi Pen This is the Martin and Bridget i was looking for. Thanks very much. Cheers Frank.