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Trying to find Brogan

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brogan

brogan Report 5 Dec 2005 08:37

Hi my family name is Brogan, my great grandfather was James Brogan who came from Donegal Ireland, his mother was Kate Cannon and his father was John Brogan, he came on the Montrose aged 19 born approx 1847 married Cecilia Reily and had 4 children John Catherine Cecilia and Elizabeth he resided on land at Brogans Creek or Vincents Hole near Ilford NSW any info would be great, my father was a son of John. and was born in Mudgee NSW. Lillian

brogan

brogan Report 12 Jan 2014 06:01

Hi, my family name is Brogan, they
came from Donegal Ireland mother Kate Cannon father John Brogan.
My father weas born in Mudgee James Leo Brogan 1906 his grndmother was Cecilia Brogan and they resided on land at Brogan's Creek or Vincents Hole.
any help appreciated.
Lillian Brogan

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 12 Jan 2014 09:57

What do you actually wish to know?

How much research have you done yourself between 2005 and now?

patchem

patchem Report 12 Jan 2014 10:15

Locality not mentioned for the household, and 8 men no females, so is it related?

1891 New South Wales, Australia Census about James Brogan
Name: James Brogan
Locality: Bogan Gate
Sub-District: D
County: Lincoln
District: Dubbo

brogan

brogan Report 12 Jan 2014 22:18

James Leo Brogan was born 1905 in Mudgee NSW, his mother and father lived at that time in Brogans's Creek or Vincent's Hole, the owned property with a school on it.
My Father does not appear to come up in any other family tree, and no photo's are around that I can see.

Thanks for yor replies.

brogan

brogan Report 12 Jan 2014 22:22

James Leo Brogan.
Mother Ellen Conran. Warrangunia.
Father John Brogan. Brogans Creek.
G Mother Cecilia Reilly.G Father James Brogan.
He was born 1905 Died 1951 in Lidcombe NSW.
Would love to find pictures of this Family, as my mother and father had seperated, and I believe he Committed Suicide.

Thanks for the replies.

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 13 Jan 2014 00:28

Article on Trove - 9 Feb 1951

The Sydney Morning Herald, page 20

BROGAN, James Leo – Feb 6 1951 of 14 Bernard Street, Lidcombe.
Beloved brother of Molly, Lionel, Julie and Inez. Aged 45 years RIP

If you didn't already known about them, there's some more family members to research. They, or rather their descendants, might still have a family photo

JoonieCloonie

JoonieCloonie Report 13 Jan 2014 04:12

There is a death notice for Lionel Brogan shown in the Ryerson Index

http://ryersonindex.net/search.php

BROGAN Lionel John
Obituary 15SEP1973 Death 66 late of Mudgee
Mudgee Guardian 19SEP1973

oh dear, Lionel was charged with assault in 1931!

http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/106842051?searchTerm=lionel%20brogan&searchLimits=

The Mudgee Guardian isn't covered by Trove but you can get a copy of the death notice from the Ryerson Index site for a small fee.

also his death certificate would list his wife and children.

brogan

brogan Report 13 Jan 2014 09:26

Thank's for the help appreciate it.

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 13 Jan 2014 09:52

Australia Birth Index, 1788-1922 about Lionel J Brogan
Name: Lionel J Brogan
Birth Date: 1907
Father's Name: John F Brogan
Mother's Name: Ellen
Birth Place: New South Wales
Registration Year: 1907
Registration Place: Mudgee, New South Wales
Registration number: 15725
.......................................

Australia, Electoral Rolls, 1903-1980 about Lionel John Brogan
Name: Lionel John Brogan
Gender: Male
Electoral Year: 1937
State: New South Wales
District: Reid
Subdistrict: Flemington
12 Bede St

All Brogans at the same address –
John Francis – labourer
Ellen - home duties
Julia Ellen – home duties
Lily Melba – home duties
Lionel John – labourer
...........................................

Julia's birth
Registration Number Last Name Given Name(s) Father's Given Name(s) Mother's Given Name(s) District
29353/1908 BROGAN JULIA E JOHN F ELLEN RYLSTONE

Lionel's death details if you wish to order the certificate
Registration Number Last Name Given Name(s) Father's Given Name(s) Mother's Given Name(s) District
56904/1973 BROGAN LIONEL JOHN JOHN FRANCIS ELLEN MUDGEE

Julia died under her birth name, so probably not married

Registration Number Last Name Given Name(s) Father's Given Name(s) Mother's Given Name(s) District
28204/1969 BROGAN JULIA ELLEN JOHN FRANCIS ELLEN BURWOOD

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 13 Jan 2014 10:01

Some more names of relatives to play with

The Sydney Morning Herald Tues 19 Apr 1949 page 16
http://tinyurl.com/p9k3dmo

Death of
BROGAN John Francis – April 18 (13?) 1949
At his son’s residence, 14 Bernard Street, Lidcombe
Relict of Ellen Brogan and loved father of
James, Mary, Lionel, Julia, Inez (Mrs Peterson) and fond
Father-in-law of Neil, and brother of Katherine (Mrs Sheridan of
Rylstone) Elizabeth (Mrs Morrison of Lithgow decd) and Rose Celia
(Mrs Finucane of Lidcombe, decd) and grandfather of
Patricia, Graham and Lillian aged 71 years RIP

Added -Molly as posted earlier might be the nickname for Mary.
Her birth
Registration Number Last Name Given Name(s) Father's Given Name(s) Mother's Given Name(s) District
15799/1906 BROGAN MARY E C JOHN F ELLEN MUDGEE

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 13 Jan 2014 10:28

WW2 enlistments - it would seem that the next of kin were probably birth relatives, so not a lot of help. The records have not been transcribed

BROGAN JAMES LEO : Service Number - NX985 : Date of birth - 27 Mar 1906 : Place of birth - MUDGEE NSW : Place of enlistment - PADDINGTON NSW : Next of Kin - BROGAN LILLIE

BROGAN LIONEL JOHN : Service Number - N251077 : Date of birth - 29 May 1907 : Place of birth - RYLSTONE NSW : Place of enlistment - ASHFIELD NSW : Next of Kin - BROGAN JOHN

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 13 Jan 2014 10:33

Could this enlistment be Inez' husband?

PETERSON NEIL HERBERT JOHN : Service Number - NX5792 : Date of birth - 03 Sep 1908 : Place of birth - BALMAIN NSW : Place of enlistment - PADDINGTON NSW : Next of Kin - PETERSON ENNIES

EDIT - see following ER post. This may be a completely different person

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 13 Jan 2014 10:56

Might be??

Australia, Electoral Rolls, 1903-1980 about Neil Herbert John Peterson
Name: Neil Herbert John Peterson
Gender: Male
Electoral Year: 1937
State: New South Wales
District: Reid
Subdistrict: Flemington

Amy St, Regents Park
Other Peterson resident
Ennies Catherine
..............

Perhaps not!
Australia, Electoral Rolls, 1903-1980 about Neil Herbert John Peterson
Name: Neil Herbert John Peterson
Gender: Male
Electoral Year: 1963
State: New South Wales
District: Reid
Subdistrict: Merrylands

Lot 5, Gernsey St, Guilford
Neil Herbert John
Ennies Catherin
Jean Ruby
Gordon Peter

None of the new names match with the grandchildren listed on the 1949 Obit for John Francis. Of course, I was making the assumption that only Inez was married.

brogan

brogan Report 13 Jan 2014 21:39

Thank you, I believe Julia never married as disabled, Lionel I believe never married or not in the time I can remember, Mary lived in Lidcombe and had twin girls.
My sister Patricia and myself are Granddaughters of John, where Grahame come in I am not sure.

Thanks for the help.

brogan

brogan Report 13 Jan 2014 21:42

I also remeber a Neil coming to ther family home in later years in Guildford, but he was younger and had mental health issues, I presume he was the son of the Neil you mentioned.

Thanks.