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Hi Members, I am looking for a Edward Karr Styles, we think born about 1832 in Gloucestershire. We have his son George Edward Styles born 28/5 1872, George married Florence Ada Tugwell. What I'm looking for is who Edward Karr Styles married, a close friend had he married a Elizabeth ? but no proof. We have Georges Marriage certificate and his father Edward was an army surgeon, his son George got married in 1895 but his dad Edward was already deceased, any help would be appreciated.
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IF...George was born in 1872, this could be his record of birth on the freebmd site
Births Jun 1872
Styles George Gloucester 6a 306
Styles George Edward Gloucester 6a 306
You will note that there are 2 entries with the same reference page.
Clicking on the glasses next to the 306 on the freebmd site will take you to the printed GRO index page used by the transcribers. The 2 entries for George and George Edward are there.
However
If you look up the entry on the actual GRO site, there is only ONE listing, which shows the birth recorded with the same reference numbers but just as George.
Notably no mother's maiden name is recorded.
This can indicate an illegitimate birth and might mean HER surname was Styles.
Also on the GRO site entry, it is noted 'Occasional Copy' which indicates that the original information given by the informant of birth has been ammended in some way.
Name: Mother's Maiden Surname:
STYLES, GEORGE -
GRO Reference: 1872 J Quarter in GLOUCESTER Volume 06A Page 306 Occasional Copy: A
I looked for George in 1881 searching for clues to his mother, but George is a boarder in another household.
In 1871 census, I looked for Styles in the Gloucestershire area and there is a 23 years old Elizabeth, who is a pauper.
Could she be George's mother, who was later unable to care for him so he boarded out?
You need to purchase George's birth certificate to find the recorded facts.
Edward Karr may be a made-up name to cover the illegitimacy.
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Thanks Gwyn for your time and answer i will look into it.
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Definitely illegitimate - GlosBMD site shows NO info for MMN
Was the child baptised?
No apparent connection to the family he was boarding with in 1881. The head was Artus, his wife Clissold at birth
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A tree on Ancestry records his having a sister Emma Blanche, born in Sproxton
STYLES, EMMA BLANCHE WEST
GRO Reference: 1876 J Quarter in BRIDGWATER Volume 05C Page 404
Marriages Mar 1856 (>99%)
Styles Edward Bedminster 5c 1120
West Elizabeth Bedminster 5c 1120
STYLES, EDWARD WEST
GRO Reference: 1870 M Quarter in BRIDGWATER Volume 05C Page 423
It is total nonsense
Name Emma Blanche Styles
Baptism Date 6 Aug 1876
Baptism Place Spaxton, Somerset, England
Father Edward Styles
Mother Elizabeth Styles
1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Splatt, Spaxton, Bridgwater, Somerset, England
Edward Styles Head - Male 39 1832 Ag lab Spaxton, Somerset, England
Elizabeth Styles Daughter - Female 39 1832 Ag lab wife Spaxton, Somerset, England
Lucy Styles Daughter - Female 11 1860 - Spaxton, Somerset, England
Alice Styles Daughter - Female 10 1861 - Spaxton, Somerset, England
William Henry Styles Son - Male 7 1864 Scholar Cannington, Somerset, England
Edwin Styles Son - Male 5 1866 Scholar Spaxton, Somerset, England
Amelia Styles Daughter - Female 4 1867 Scholar Spaxton, Somerset, England
Edward Styles Son - Male 1 1870 - Spaxton, Somerset, England
Still in SPAXTON in 1881
Edward Style Head Married Male 48 1833 Farm lab Spaxton, Somerset, England
Elizabeth Style Wife Married Female 49 1832 Laborers wife Spaxton, Somerset, England
Amelia Style Daughter Single Female 14 1867 Scholar Spaxton, Somerset, England
Edward Style Son Single Male 11 1870 Farm boy Spaxton, Somerset, England
Ellen Style Daughter Single Female 8 1873 Scholar Spaxton, Somerset, England
Blanche Style Daughter Single Female 4 1877 Scholar Spaxton, Somerset, England
Charles West Boarder Widower Male 94 1787 General lab Spaxton, Somerset, England
The ONLY way to get accurate info is to get a copy of George's birth cert.
You can download a digital copy from the GRO for only £3.00
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Ancestry tree entry-for info only
George E Styles
1873–1947
Birth ABT 1873 • Gloucester
Death 13 FEB 1947 • Bristol Mental Hospital, Bristol, Gloucestershire, England
Marriage
10 Nov 1895 • St Aldgate, Gloucester, England
Florence Ada Tugwell
1876–1956
*** There is a photograph of George and Florence ***
Parents
Edward Karr Styles
1832–1895
Elizabeth West
1832–1919
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1939 Register wrongly gives his YOB as 1865, and Florence's as 1863:
George E Styles
in the 1939 England and Wales Register
Name George E Styles
Gender Male
Marital Status Married
Birth Date 28 May 1865
Residence Date 1939
Address 4 Cheese Lane
Residence Place Bristol, Gloucestershire, England
Occupation Hairdresser
Line Number 10
Schedule Number 76
Sub Schedule Number 1
Enumeration District Oamb
Borough Bristol
Registration district 319/4
Inferred Spouse
Florence A Styles
Household Members (Name) Gender Birth Year
George E Styles Male - 28 May 1865
Florence A Styles Female - 1 Dec 1863
Incidentally, there seems to be no birth record of Florence and several of her siblings, and her parents seem never to have married.
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Army List
A list of British Army officers that includes details of their service, promotions, appointments, and other information:
What's included
Details of officers serving in the British Army, including regular, militia, and territorial officers. Also includes information on colonial, militia, and territorial units, the yeomanry cavalry, *******medical******** and veterinary officers, and retired officers.
When it started
The first official Army List was published in 1740, but manuscript lists of officers were kept as early as 1702.
Findmypast.co.uk: Includes a database of Army Lists from 1839–1946, which can be searched through PDF images of the original publications.
The National Archives Documents Online: Includes Annual Army Lists from 1754–1879, which can be downloaded as PDF files or viewed online.
Hart's Army List
An unofficial alternative to the official Army Lists, created by Lieutenant-General George Hart. It lists officers in both the British and Indian Army.
If Edward Karr Styles was an Army Surgeon you would expect him to be recorded somewhere in the above records.
Can anyone check FMP please
He may have be Gazetted also.
Commissioned Officers were not issued service numbers until 1920........
I have a set of Pre WW1 Army Lists, but they are date specific. I could search for him if I knew in which year he was commissioned.
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Edward Karr Styles never existed
The child's MOTHER was Styles
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Thanks everyone for your comments i do have George Edward Styles birth certificate but no fathers name and only Elizabeth Styles no maiden name. Many thanks for the info I will sit and have a good read.
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It would have been helpful if you’d told us ALL you knew at the outset.
Styles WAS her maiden name.
What was the address on the cert?
Who registered the birth?
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