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IF her date of birth was as shown in 1939, she was not that young to be marrying for the first time.....

She could indeed have lied about her father.
Many of us have certificates with invented fathers so as not have to own up eg. being illegitimate.

Did she marry in church?

Who were the witnesses to the 1926 marriage ?

The names might lead us to Winifred's family.

Thankyou alviegal that's fabulous!!


I've looked on the census and I can only see Winifreds with different middle names and not William as a father. Super frustrating...I am starting to think she wasnt born here but then I've no idea where to look next. I have tried looking for a William who was an actor but no luck.

Could she have lied about her father? Lied about her name?

Also to add to the mystery I have a telegram from Buckingham Palace asking her to report for duty there as a maid in 1959 ...I wrote to the palace records office a few years back and they said they have no record of her working there.

Welcome to Genes and the boards. The 1921 census ( which I don’t have access to ) May give a place of birth.

Have you considered that she may not have been born on England and Wales? Have you been able to track her father William the actor?

For info

1939 Register
9 St Martin's Road, Stockwell, Lambeth, Lambeth, London, England

Household members (2 people)
First name(s) Last name(s) Birth date Sex Occupation Marital status Schedule Schedule sub number
Winifred K Charman 03 Feb 1895 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 83 1
Vivienne R Howells (Charman) 27 Mar 1926 Female At School Single 83 2


and Albert

First name(s) Albert A
County London
Last name(s) Charman
Country England
Birth date 19 Nov 1887
E. D. letter code ANFH
Birth day 19
Schedule 238
Birth month 11
Schedule sub number 1
Birth year 1887
Archive reference RG101/0343I/015/43
Sex Male
Piece number 0343I
Marital status Married
Item number 15
Occupation Clerical Officer Civil Servical
Line number 43
Address 5 Cleaver Square, Kennington, Lambeth

Hi all ??

I've been looking for a birth entry for my great gran but can't find her. I want to find out who her family were but I'm stuck.

I have her marriage cert

Winifred Kathleen Wynn married albert Alfred Charman 1926 in Lambeth. On the certificate it states her father was William Wynn deceased and says he was an actor.

Winifred and Albert had my grandmother vivienne Rita Charman the same year

I have her death cert from 1961 aged 66 in Lambeth

Why can't I find her birth? Any tips would be gratefully received