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1939 register for John Wilson/Eileen Barkworth

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alviegal

alviegal Report 3 Sep 2021 20:21

Name
Jean Margaret Barratt
Death Age
62
Birth Date
14 Aug 1943
Registration Date
Nov 2005
Registration district
east Retford
Inferred County
Nottinghamshire
Register Number
1A
District and Subdistrict
686/1A
Entry Number
258
Household members

Death of the daughter.

Teresa

Teresa Report 3 Sep 2021 16:21

Amazing help, thank-you so much :-)

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 3 Sep 2021 16:05

EDIT:
Oops, too late - I see others have posted already!

This is the birth claimed in several trees on Ancestry -

Births Mar 1917 (>99%)
Wilson John Teather Southwell 7b 812


Parents' marriage:

Marriages Mar 1905 (>99%)
TEATHER Violet Southwell 7b 509
WILSON John Southwell 7b 509


Births Dec 1882 (>99%)
Teather Violet Southwell 7b 400


Violet Wilson
in the 1939 England and Wales Register
Name: Violet Wilson
Gender: Female
Marital Status: Married
Birth Date: 29 Sep 1882
Residence Year: 1939
Address: Saywood.kueesal, Newark
Residence Place: Southwell, Nottinghamshire, England
Occupation: Unpaid Domestic Duties
Line Number: 21
Schedule Number: 73
Sub Schedule Number: 2
Enumeration District: ROLK
Borough: Southwell
Registration district: 431/2.
Inferred Spouse:
John Wilson
Inferred Children:
Fred Wilson
Edwin Wilson
Household Members Age
John Wilson 56
Violet Wilson 57
Fred Wilson 25
Edwin Wilson 11
This record is officially closed.
Annie Fortescue 32



Violet Wilson
in the 1911 England Census
Name: Violet Wilson
Age in 1911: 28
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1883
Relation to Head: Servant
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Kneesall, Nottinghamshire, England
Civil Parish: Laxton
Country: England
Street Address: Laxton Notts
Marital status: Married
Occupation: House Keper
Registration District Number: 431
Sub-registration District: Kneesall
ED, institution, or vessel: 14
Piece: 20711
Household Members:
Name Age
John Wilson 28 - farm labourer [ "not in residence"]
Violet Wilson 28
Annie Wilson 4
Bernard Wilson 1

The 1911 form is signed by Alfred H Chell, for some reason.


WILSON, ANNIE mmn TEATHER
GRO Reference: 1907 J Quarter in SOUTHWELL Volume 07B Page 506

WILSON, BERNARD mmn TEATHER
GRO Reference: 1909 D Quarter in SOUTHWELL Volume 07B Page 488

WILSON, ERNEST mmn TEATHER
GRO Reference: 1911 D Quarter in SOUTHWELL Volume 07B Page 875

WILSON, FREDERICK mmn TEATHER
GRO Reference: 1914 J Quarter in NEWARK Volume 07B Page 984

WILSON, FRANCES MARY mmn TEATHER
GRO Reference: 1919 M Quarter in SOUTHWELL Volume 07B Page 635

WILSON, VIOLET mmn TEATHER
GRO Reference: 1922 J Quarter in SOUTHWELL Volume 07B Page 830


Two trees call him Jack B Wilson.
Several say he died in Retford in 2005.


WILSON, JOHN 1916
GRO Reference: DOR Q4/2005 in BASSETLAW (6861A) Reg 1A Entry Number 233

greyghost

greyghost Report 3 Sep 2021 15:47

Have found another tree on Ancestry which gives -

John (Jack) B Wilson b 19.12.1916 to John Thomas Wilson and Violet Teather

There are pictures of John Thomas and Violet and of John (Jack) B Wilson

(tree called barky1 by the Barkworth family, but you still need certificates)

Teresa

Teresa Report 3 Sep 2021 15:44

Wow, thank-you very much for all this extra info, a bit confusing so will sort it out for him Teresa

greyghost

greyghost Report 3 Sep 2021 15:39

This is that family in 1939. The T has been added in at a later date than the original record.

1939 Register
Saywood, Knessall,Newark, Sutton On Trent, Southwell R.D., Nottinghamshire, England

First name(s) Last name(s) DOB Sex Occupation Marital status Schedule Schedule Sub Number
John (T) Wilson 22 Apr 1883 Male Agricultural General Labourer Married 73 1
Violet Wilson 29 Sep 1882 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 73 2
Fred Wilson 29 Mar 1914 Male General Farm Worker Single 73 3
Edwin Wilson 03 Dec 1928 Male At School Single 73 4
Annie Dodson (Fortescue) 16 Mar 1907 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 73 6
The record for this person is officially closed.
The record for this person is officially closed.
The record for this person is officially closed.

---------------------------
Surname First name(s) Mother District Vol Page
Births Jun 1914 (>99%)
WILSON Frederick Teather Newark 7b 984

greyghost

greyghost Report 3 Sep 2021 15:33

These are the only records to "Fit" the Ancestry tree, but no mention anywhere of the Thomas shown 1939

Marriage cert definitely needed

Surname First name(s) Mother District Vol Page
Births Mar 1917 (>99%)
Wilson John Teather Southwell 7b 812
Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
------------------------------

Marriages Mar 1905 (>99%)
TEATHER Violet Southwell 7b 509
WILSON John Southwell 7b 509

----------------------------
1911 Census For England & Wales

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
John Wilson Servant Married Male 28 1883 Farm labourer Notts Newark
Violet Wilson Servant Married Female 28 1883 House keper Notts Kneesall
Annie Wilson - - Female 4 1907 - -
Bernard Wilson - - Male 1 1910 - -

Married 6 years, 3 children born, 1 has died

alviegal

alviegal Report 3 Sep 2021 15:22

A tree on ancestry has this for John Wilson.


John Wilson

1916–2005

Birth 19 DEC 1916 • Southwell, Nottinghamshire, England

Death NOV 2005 • East Retford, Nottinghamshire, England

This is the man you've found greyghost but there are no records to back it up. The MC is still advised.

greyghost

greyghost Report 3 Sep 2021 15:05

That would give you this chap in 1939

1939 Register
Manor Farm, West Markham, East Retford R.D., Nottinghamshire, England

First name(s) Last name(s) DOB Sex Occupation Marital status Schedule Schedule Sub Number
Frank Dolby 28 Sep 1890 Male Farmer Married 43 1
Laura A Dolby 06 Aug 1891 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 43 2
Frederick Dolby 15 Mar 1859 Male Farmer Retired Widowed 43 3
John (Thomas) Wilson 19 Dec 1916 Male General Farm Worker Single 43 4

Original says John Wilson, but in 1972 a change has been noted making his forenames Thomas John

greyghost

greyghost Report 3 Sep 2021 15:03

Yes, nothing comes out in a sensible order does it ErikaH. Good job, I've got time to fiddle a little -

????
Wondering about this death for John - same RD and just 5 years older than Eileen

England & Wales Deaths 1837-2007
East Retford, Nottinghamshire, England

First name(s) John
Last name Wilson
District number 6861A
Register number 1A
Gender Male
Entry number 233
Birth day 19
Birth month 12
Birth year 1916
Date of registration mm/yy 1105
County Nottinghamshire
Country England
Age -
Death quarter 4
Death Year 2005

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 3 Sep 2021 14:47

Eileen's death - FMP's new system is AWFUL

First name(s) Eileen May
District East Retford
Last name Wilson
Register number 686
Gender Female
County Nottinghamshire
Birth day 5
Birth month 3
Birth year 1921
Country England
Record set England & Wales Deaths 1837-2007
Death quarter 2
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Registration Month 6
Subcategory Civil Deaths & Burials
Death year 1986

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 3 Sep 2021 14:44

Wallace re-married

Marriages Dec 1941 (>99%)
Barkworth Wallace Lindley E.Retford 7b 40
Lindley Lillie Barkworth E.Retford 7b 40

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 3 Sep 2021 14:41

First name(s) Wallace
Residence town Wakefield
Last name Barkworth
Residence county Yorkshire
Birth year 1893
Residence country England
Birth town Doncaster
Series WO 363
Birth county Yorkshire
Series description Wo 363 - First World War Service Records 'Burnt Documents'
Birth country England
Age 23
Record set British Army Service Records
Year 1916
Category Military, armed forces & conflict
Service number 361288
Subcategory First World War
Regiment Labour Corps
Collections from Great Britain, UK None

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 3 Sep 2021 14:41

Births Sep 1893 (>99%)
Keyworth Alice Emily E. Retford 7b 10

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 3 Sep 2021 14:39

Births Dec 1917 (>99%)
Barkworth John R Keyworth E.Retford 7b 18
Births Dec 1919 (>99%)
Barkworth Joan E Keyworth E. Retford 7b 18
Births Jun 1921 (>99%)
Barkworth Eileen M Keyworth E.Retford 7b 15
Births Mar 1923 (>99%)
Barkworth Kenneth Keyworth E.Retford 7b 13
Births Dec 1925 (>99%)
Barkworth Olive M Keyworth E.Retford 7b 22

Actually the one I mentioned originally is the right woman - she was recorded twice, but only on the Rampton record was her marriage noted

1939
9 Leverton Road, Retford, East Retford M.B., Nottinghamshire


Wallace Barkworth 29 Nov 1893 Male Elec (Fuel & Ce? Orders Widowed 47 1
John R Barkworth 06 Nov 1917 Male Paper Maker (Machinist) Single 47 2
Joan E Jackson (Barkworth) 02 Oct 1919 Female Grocers Assistant Single 47 3
Eileen L Barkworth 05 Mar 1921 Female Kitchen Made Single 47 4
Kenneth Barkworth 20 Nov 1922 Male Hairdresser (Apprentice Single 47 5
Olive M Delaporte (Barkworth) 21 Oct 1925 Female At School Single 47 6

Wallace died 1959


Marriages Dec 1915 (>99%)
Barkworth Wallace Keyworth Wakefield 9c 149
Keyworth Alice E Barkworth Wakefield 9c 149


1901

127, Moorgate, Retford, North Retford, East Retford
George Baulby Head Married Male 59 1842 Bricklayer Retford, Nottinghamshire, England
Ann Baulby Wife Married Female 65 1836 - Retford, Nottinghamshire, England
Emma Barkworth Daughter Married Female 34 1867 - Retford, Nottinghamshire, England
Wallace Barkworth Grand son - Male 7 1894 - Retford, Nottinghamshire, England

alviegal

alviegal Report 3 Sep 2021 14:34

Eileen M Wilson (Barkworth) in 1939
1939 Register
Rampton State Institution Near Retford,Notts, East Retford, East Retford R.D., Nottinghamshire, England

First name(s) Eileen M
Schedule 7
Last name(s) Wilson (Barkworth)
Schedule Sub Number 128
DOB -
Borough / District East Retford R.D.
Birth day -
County Nottinghamshire
Birth month -
County Nottinghamshire
Birth year -
Country England
Sex Female
Archive reference RG101/6264I/009/35
Marital status -
Piece number 6264I
Occupation Kitchen Maid
Item number 9
Special interest groups -
Line number 35
Address Rampton State Institution Near Retford,Notts, East Retford
Category Census, land & surveys
Place East Retford R.D.
Subcategory Census
E. D. letter code ROHR
Collections from Great Britain, England

Date of birth may be 5/3/21, it is obscured by tape.


and her family in 1939.


Joan E Jackson (Barkworth) in 1939

9 Leverton Road, Retford, East Retford M.B., Nottinghamshire, England

First name(s) Last name(s) DOB Sex Occupation Marital status Schedule Schedule Sub Number
Wallace Barkworth 29 Nov 1893 Male Elec (Fuel & Lighting Orders Widowed 47 1
John R Barkworth 06 Nov 1917 Male Paper Maker (Machinist) Single 47 2
Joan E Jackson (Barkworth) 02 Oct 1919 Female Grocers Assistant Single 47 3
Eileen L Barkworth 05 Mar 1921 Female Kitchen Made Single 47 4
Kenneth Barkworth 20 Nov 1922 Male Hairdresser (Apprentice Single 47 5
Olive M Delaporte (Barkworth) 21 Oct 1925 Female At School Single 47 6

Teresa

Teresa Report 3 Sep 2021 14:23

Yes Erika, I will tell him to send for one. TY

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 3 Sep 2021 14:13

He needs the marriage cert…………

Teresa

Teresa Report 3 Sep 2021 14:12

Ah just picked you last message up, thank-you.

Teresa

Teresa Report 3 Sep 2021 14:10

ErikaH, he knows very little about any of his family, just a couple of his grandparents, who were actually my Dads friends, I have managed to trace 6 of his greats but was struggling with the ones I asked about. It is unfortunate to have a common name so I thank-you for your time anyway