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Re 1871 census posted by safc

Name: Mother's Maiden Surname:
COULTER, THOMAS MALONE
GRO Reference: 1868 M Quarter in SOUTH SHIELDS UNION Volume 10A Page 626

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Surname Forename Spouse Name Date Parish Number Ref Parish Image View
COULTER ALEXANDER JANE MALONE/FR6018 (FR6018) 12/11/1854 622/ 210 517 Barony

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Event Type Census
Name Allexander Coulter
Sex Male
Age 34
Event Date 1871
Event Place Jarrow, Durham, England, United Kingdom
Event Place (Original) Hedworth Monkton & Jarrow, Durham, England
Sub-District Shields, South
Enumeration District 19
Birth Year (Estimated) 1837
Birthplace Scotland
Marital Status Married
Occupation Plater
Relationship to Head of Household Head
Entry Number 9
Allexander Coulter's Spouses and Children
Jane Coulter
Wife
F
34
Ireland
Catharine Coulter
Daughter
F
15
Scotland
Jane Coulter
Daughter
F
13
Scotland
Mary Coulter
Daughter
F
11
Scotland
Margaret Coulter
Daughter
F
8
Scotland
Allexander Coulter
Son
M
5
Jarrow, Durham
Thomas Coulter
Son
M
3
Jarrow, Durham

Sorry, in a rush, all on one post

Could she have come to join relatives already in Chesterfield?

1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Red Lion Inn, Chesterfield, Derbyshire, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Hugh Coulter Head Married Male 52 1829 Licensed victualler (red lion inn) Ireland
Mary Coulter Wife Married Female 40 1841 - Aberdeenshire, Scotland
William Coulter Son Single Male 22 1859 Musician Swinton, Yorkshire, England
Jessie Coulter Daughter Single Female 14 1867 Scholar Swinton, Yorkshire, England
Hugh Coulter Son Single Male 12 1869 Scholar Swinton, Yorkshire, England
George Coulter Son Single Male 10 1871 Scholar Chesterfield, Derbyshire, England
Fred Coulter Son Single Male 8 1873 Scholar Chesterfield, Derbyshire, England
Polly Coulter Daughter Single Female 6 1875 Scholar Chesterfield, Derbyshire, England
Harriett Wood Servant Widow Female 42 1839 General servant (domestic) Swinton, Yorkshire, England

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1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Pavement, Low, Chesterfield, Derbyshire, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Hugh Coulter Head - Male 42 1829 - Scotland
Mary Coulter Wife - Female 28 1843 - Scotland
William Coulter Son - Male 13 1858 - Yorkshire, England
Jessie Coulter Daughter - Female 5 1866 - Yorkshire, England
Hugh Coulter Son - Male 3 1868 - Yorkshire, England
George Coulter Son - Male 0 1871 - Derbyshire, England

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Name: Mother's Maiden Surname:
COULTER, HUGH LAING
GRO Reference: 1868 J Quarter in ROTHERHAM Volume 09C Page 572

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Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Marriages Mar 1863 (>99%)
Coulter Hugh Poplar 1c 1050
Deacon Richard Poplar 1c 1050
LAING Mary Poplar 1c 1050
Selfe Mary Kezia Elizabeth Poplar 1c 1050

(There are Deacon/Selfe births)
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Hugh Coulter in 1861
1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Swifts Houses, 2, Swinton, Rotherham, Yorkshire & Yorkshire (West Riding), England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Hugh Coulter Head Married Male 32 1829 Potter Ireland
Isabella Coulter Wife Married Female 32 1829 - Scotland
Charles Coulter Son - Male 8 1853 Scholar Yorkshire, England
George Interman Coulter Son - Male 6 1855 Scholar Swinton, Yorkshire, England
William Coulter Son - Male 3 1858 Scholar Kilnhurst, Yorkshire, England
Alice Coulter Daughter - Female 2 1859 - Kilnhurst, Yorkshire, England

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Name: Mother's Maiden Surname:
COULTER, ALICE YATES
GRO Reference: 1859 M Quarter in ROTHERHAM Volume 09C Page 428

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Name: Age at Death (in years):
COULTER, ISABELLA 33
GRO Reference: 1862 M Quarter in ROTHERHAM Volume 09C Page 315
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https://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk

Surname Forename Spouse Name Date Parish Number Ref Parish Image View
COULTER HUGH ISABELLA YATES/FR7924 (FR7924) 25/03/1849 644/1 430 494 Glasgow

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?? - same RD etc as Ellen's birth

Name ALEXANDER COULTER
Date of Death 1876
Group Registration ID 7668591
SR District/Reg Area Lurgan
Deceased Age at Death 48

From image -
Registrar's District - Waringstown
Died 9 Dec. 1876 @ Ballynagarrick.
Married Aged 48
A Weaver.
Registered by a Margaret Coulter - no relationship given

Marriage - Party 1 Name ALEXANDER COULTER
Party 2 Name ELIZABETH SANDS
Date of Event 30 July 1852
Group Registration ID 3219875
SR District/Reg Area Banbridge

From image -
Parish Church of Tullylish, Co. Down
Both of full age
Alexander, a widower, is a Labourer, residing at time of marriage at ? Ausghanoon (Donacloney), s/o Alexander a Labourer

Elizabeth a Spinster, resided at ? Ballydragan (Knockamuckly) , d/o James Sands a Weaver

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie Site is free to search

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Name ELLEN COULTER
Date of Birth 1865
Group Registration ID 8140987
SR District/Reg Area Lurgan
Sex N/R
Mother's Birth Surname N/R
Image

from image -
Born 15 June 1865 at Ballynagarrick, Knocknamuckly
Father Alexander a Labourer
Mother Elizabeth formerly Sands

Superintendant Registrar's District of Lurgan, Registrar's District Waringstown
County Down

did the family move to Edinburgh when she was very young and so she thought that was where she came from?

William Bernard’s birth reg’n shows MMN Reid

Do you have Alice’s marriage cert?

Age a bit out from 1911 census !! 1901 has her as aged 8, so b late 1892 early 1893

The marriage of Alice and Walter

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Marriages Dec 1911 (>99%)
Randall Alice Chesterfield 7b 1584
REDFORD Walter Chesterfield 7b 1584

Alice's death - aged 20, which would indicate a birth 1890/91

Deaths Mar 1912 (>99%)
Redford Alice 20 Chesterfield 7b 899

Name: Mother's Maiden Surname:
RANDALL, ALICE READ
GRO Reference: 1891 D Quarter in CHESTERFIELD Volume 07B Page 665

cannot see a relevant randall /reid/read marriage

Unfortunately I do not know the exact DOB for my grandmother Alice Randal but I do know for certain that she was born in 1911, most likely in Chesterfield, she married my grandfather Walter Redford in 1911 and died in 1912 giving birth to my mother Alice Redford

Have you any proof that Alice’s father was Arthur John?

do you know definitely your grandmother Alice's date of birth?

Get Alice’s birth certificate!!

Sorry, in my opening post I mistakenly gave her name as Elizabeth Coulter, this was an old name that I had discounted, as far as I know my great grandmothers and me was Ellen Coulter but given the dead end that I meet searching her details I cannot guarantee this is her correct name. Thanks for all the help so far.

The woman who married in 1883 was ELLEN……..why do you think her name was Elizabeth?

Have you got Alice’s birth certificate as this could show if her mother had been married before and known by another name.?

nearest from sp

COULTER

ELLEN

F

1863

501/ 111

Old or West Kilpatrick

If that 1911 census Maddie posted is correct, all the children have the mmn as Read/Reid

You have put 2 different names for her in the opening post. Is she Elizabeth or Ellen please?

Name: Ellen Coulter
Gender: Female
Marriage Age: 19
Birth Date: abt 1864
Marriage Date: 25 Dec 1883
Marriage Place: Hasland, Derbyshire, England
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Phillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Map:
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Father: Alexander Coulter deceased
Spouse: Arthur Randle

EDIT she was a spinster

a tree on ancestry has this
Name
Ellen Coulter
Gender
Female
Birth Date
15 Jun 1865
Birth Place
Waringstown, Down, Ireland
Father
Alexander Coulter
Mother
Elizabeth Sands
FHL Film Number
101110
Household members