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HARRIET MARKS 1858c

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ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 10 Aug 2020 13:10

Can't see her in 1881, however.

Rose

Rose Report 10 Aug 2020 11:33

ErikaH Sorry but I did not know there were no penalties for not registering a birth. I have made a note, just hope I remember in future!

ArgyllGran, Youve done it again, youve found my Harriet. Thank you so much.

Thank you ladies you have been very helpful

Rose

LondonBelle

LondonBelle Report 9 Aug 2020 16:37

This is Harriet in the 1939 Register......her surname has been mistranscribed on FMP but image states 'Hutt', she's still at the same address as in 1911.

20 Frankton Road, Peckham, Southwark, Camberwell, London, England

First name(s) Last name(s) DOB Sex Occupation Marital status Schedule Schedule Sub Number
Harriet Hult 05 May 1859 Female Incapacitated Widowed 93 1

malyon

malyon Report 9 Aug 2020 13:24

Edward Junr. Marks
England Marriages, 1538–1973
Name:
Edward Junr. Marks
Event Type:
Marriage Notice
Event Date:
20 Apr 1856
Event Place:
St Mary the Less, Lambeth, Surrey, England, United Kingdom
Event Place (Original):
St. Mary, Lambeth, Surrey, England
Gender:
Male
Spouse's Name:
Ann Clark
Spouse's Gender:
Female

Mary

Mary Report 9 Aug 2020 13:23

That is her above

Rebecca Marks 1869 married John Richard Noble 22/12/1889 her dad was Edward henry marks a carpenter.

Rebecca and John Noble are lodgers with her sister Harriett Hutt in 1891

Maryb

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 9 Aug 2020 12:44

??? Age varies from one record to the next .
Brixton was in Lambeth reg district -


Harriett Marks
in the London, England, Church of England Marriages and Banns, 1754-1932
Name: Harriett Marks
Gender: Female
Marriage Age: 23
Record Type: Marriage
Birth Date: abt 1860
Marriage Date: 6 May 1883
Marriage Place: St Barnabas, Hornsey Road, Islington, England
Father: Edward Marks, labourer <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Spouse: Charles Hutt
Register Type: Parish Register


Marriages Jun 1883 (>99%)
HUTT Charles Islington 1b 302
MARKS Harriett Islington 1b 302



Harriet Hutt
in the 1891 England Census
Name: Harriet Hutt
Gender: Female
Age: 32
Relationship: Wife
Birth Year: 1859 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Spouse: Charles Hutt
Child: Rebecca Noble
Birth Place: Lambeth, London, England <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Civil Parish: Camberwell
Ecclesiastical parish: St Chrysostom
Residence Place: Peckham, Camberwell, London, England
Registration district: Camberwell
Sub registration district: Peckham
ED, Institution or Vessel: 32
Neighbors:
Piece: 479
Folio: 104
Household Members:
Name Age
Charles Hutt 33
Harriet Hutt 32
John Noble 23 - lodger
Rebecca Noble 22 - lodger's wife
Minnie Dennett 23 - boarder
Rebecca Noble 10 Weeks - daughter [of lodger]

Address in 1891: 3 Alfred Place, Blue Anchor Lane.


Harriett Hutt
in the 1901 England Census
Name: Harriett Hutt
Age: 40
Estimated birth year: abt 1861
Relation to Head: Wife
Gender: Female
Spouse: Charles Hutt
Birth Place: Brixton, London, England
Civil Parish: Camberwell
Ecclesiastical parish: St Chrysostom
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street address: 6 Blue Anchor Lane
Registration district: Camberwell
Sub-registration district: Peckham
ED, institution, or vessel: 32
Neighbors:
Piece: 509
Folio: 53
Page Number: 24
Household schedule number: 146
Household Members:
Name Age
Charles Hutt 44
Harriett Hutt 40


Harriet Hutt
in the 1911 England Census
Name: Harriet Hutt
Age in 1911: 55
Estimated birth year: abt 1856
Relation to Head: Wife
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Briston, Surrey, England
Civil Parish: Camberwell
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street address: 20 Frankton Rd, Peckham S E
Marital status: Married
Estimated Marriage Year: 1882
Occupation: Assisting
Registration district: Camberwell
Registration District Number: 27
Sub-registration district: Peckham North
ED, institution, or vessel: 16
Piece: 2559
Household Members:
Name Age
Charles Hutt 54
Harriet Hutt 55
John White 42 - boarder



Harriet Hutt
in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007
Name: Harriet Hutt
Death Age: 82
Birth Date: abt 1859
Registration Date: Jul 1941
[Aug 1941]
[Sep 1941]
Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep
Registration district: Camberwell
Inferred County: London
Volume: 1d
Page: 620


Charles Hutt
in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007
Name: Charles Hutt
Death Age: 78
Birth Date: abt 1858
Registration Date: Oct 1936
[Nov 1936]
[Dec 1936]
Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration district: Camberwell
Inferred County: London
Volume: 1d
Page: 809

greyghost

greyghost Report 9 Aug 2020 12:08

Not this one either - Father Alfred a Baker from original.

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Marriages Dec 1877 (>99%)

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Marriages Dec 1877 (>99%)
BROWN Frederick Giles Wandsworth 1d 886
FITT Clara Anne Wandsworth 1d 886
Marks Harriet Ann Wandsworth 1d 886 <<<<<<<<<<
PETTIT Henry David Wandsworth 1d 886 <<<<<<<<<<


greyghost

greyghost Report 9 Aug 2020 11:51

That family in 1881 but Harriet shown older than "yours"
1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census
228, Euston Road, St Pancras, London & Middlesex, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Howard Trotman Head Married Male 31 1850 Costume Maker Employing 12 Hands Notting Hill, Middlesex, England
Harriet Trotman Wife Married Female 31 1850 - Notting Hill, Middlesex, England
Arthur H Trotman Son Single Male 6 1875 Scholar St Pancras, Middlesex, England
Percy H Trotman Son Single Male 0 1881 - St Pancras, Middlesex, England
Ellen Dillon Servant Single Female 30 1851 General Servant Domestic Ireland
Arthur H Trotman's Census Details
Details taken from the original census record.

Percy is 7 months old

EDIT - so not yours as shown by ErikaH's post above

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 9 Aug 2020 11:50

Name: Harriet Marks....full age
Gender: Female
Record Type: Marriage
Marriage Date: 21 Aug 1874
Marriage Place: St Matthew, St Pancras, Camden, England
Father: Alfred Marks - Architect
Spouse: William Howard Trotman
Register Type: Parish Register

greyghost

greyghost Report 9 Aug 2020 11:47

???
Harriet would have only been 16 -

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Marriages Sep 1874 (>99%)
Bruning Elizabeth Pancras 1b 7
MARKS Harriet Pancras 1b 7 <<<<<<<<<<<
Trotman Frederick Claude Pancras 1b 7
Trotman William Howard Pancras 1b 7 <<<<<<<<<

Can see a Frederick and Eluizabeth Trotman 1881 with young children

----------------------------------
Name: Mother's Maiden Surname:

TROTMAN, ARTHUR HOWARD MARKS
GRO Reference: 1875 J Quarter in PANCRAS Volume 01B Page 108

TROTMAN, FLORENCE HARRIETT LOUISA MARKS
GRO Reference: 1876 S Quarter in PANCRAS Volume 01B Page 88

Mary

Mary Report 9 Aug 2020 11:15

It also says Edward is a farm labourer on 1871 but in 1861 and 81/91/1901 he is a Carpenter.

Maryb

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 9 Aug 2020 11:06

Couldn't help noticing on that 1871 census the father-in-law's details............
Occupation: Seaman, unemployed.................what did they expect him to be doing - he was said to be 102 years old!!!!!

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 9 Aug 2020 10:32

I suspect that her birth just wasn't registered as I can't find a registration for her brother John either.

Nothing for her on the GRO site.

I can't find her after 1871 either.

Kath. x

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 9 Aug 2020 10:17

Why do you ‘presume there is a name change’?
Your post isn’t clear as to what you’re looking for. Please clarify

IF.......as I suspect - you mean there isn’t a birth registration on freebmd I’m sure you know that until 1875 there were no penalties for NOT registering

Have you looked at the GRO site where you can input MMN?

Rose

Rose Report 9 Aug 2020 10:06

Father Edward Marks
Mother Ann Clark

Last known address on 1871 census 6 Hobbs Terrace, Blue Anchor Yard,Camberwell age 13

Not listed on BMD as Harriet so I am presuming there is a name change

Can someone help me please

Thank you
Rose