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Eliza Clarke 21 of Frederick Street dad James Clarke dead
married Edwin Hudson hairdresser of Wellington Street on Dec 6th 1859

1861 Wellington Street St Pancras Regent Park
Edwin Hudson 29 hairdresser
Eliza 21
Edwin Everson 11 born Woolwich Kent. He also became a hairdresser.

John Clarke ginger beer maker of Frederick Street dad James dead married Charlotte Duck dad Henry in St Pancras 26/9/1858
They had 10 children and 1 died according to 1911 census.
They had Eliza 1859 and she is with Maria Wicks in 1881 as grandaughter.

Maryb

Random thoughts re Mary's find -

The 1841 census with James Clarke, ginger beer maker, was posted by Alviegal on page 1 (9 July, 19:58 ).
It shows James and Maria with a daughter Eliza, aged 18 months, per image.

The only female Clark(e)/Everson birth on GRO 1839+/-2 is this one, which might be Eliza (Already posted by Alviegal, but worth repeating here):

CLARKE, - EVERSON
GRO Reference: 1840 M Quarter in MARYLEBONE Volume 01 Page 138




There's also a 12-year-old Mary Clarke with them in 1841.

???
Maria Clarke
in the London, England, Church of England Births and Baptisms, 1813-1917
Name: Maria Clarke
Gender: Female
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 11 Oct 1829
Baptism Place: St Marylebone, Westminster, England
Father: James Clarke
Mother: Maria Clarke
Register Type: Parish Registers

But the Mary in 1851 might not be their daughter - she's listed after Eliza although older, and is a servant, as would befit her placing on the census.


The 1851 census with William Wicks shows a son/stepson John aged 14. Why isn't he with James and Maria in 1841?

Possibly John's baptism:

John Clark
in the England, Select Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
Name: John Clark
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 2 May 1836
Baptism Date: 22 May 1836
Baptism Place: All Souls Church, Marylebone, Middlesex, England
Father: James Clark
Mother: Maria Clark
FHL Film Number: 580896

James Clarke and Maria Everson married in the same church.

tree on ancestry has Maria married to James Clarke and in 1846 married to William Wicks
I have checked all the census records and it seems to add up to her marrying William wicks after the death of James Clark

1841 Frederick Street
James Clarke ginger beer manufacturer

1851 42 Frederick Street Regents Park St Pancras
William Wicks 46 born Putney Ginger beer manufacturer
Maria 47 Kent
William H wicks 10
John Clarks son in law 14 born Marylebone.

1861 Regents Park
John e Gibson head of house
Maria wicks 1805 Kent monthly nurse

1871 St Pancras regent District 19
Maria Wicks visitor born Kent age 66 a widow

1881 113 Stanhope Street Regents Park
Maria wicks 75 Monthley Nurse born Dartford Kent.

marriage for William Wicks and Maria Clark A/M/J 1846 kent V5 P506

James Clarke age 41 of Frederick Street buried in Holborn 17/11/1844

Maria Wicks died St Pancras 1884 V1b P6 buried in Camden 28/7/1884 age 83

Maryb.

The death you mentioned - from the GRO site - with age

STOKES, JOSEPH 67
GRO Reference: 1868 J Quarter in DARTFORD Volume 02A Page 207

1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Barbican, St Giles Without Cripplegate, East London (City of London), London & Middlesex, England

Joseph Stokes Male 30 1811 - **************************BAKER
Ann Stokes Female 35 1806 -
Charles Stokes Male 9 1832 Middlesex, England
Emma Stokes Female 7 1834 Middlesex, England
Eliza Abbott Female 15 1826 -
William Abbott Male 14 1827 -
Henry Saddler Male 30 1811 -
George Farrow Male 40 1801 -
Ann Farrow Female 35 1806 -
Elizabeth Farrow Female 15 1826 -
Ann Farrow Female 15 1826 -
Mary Farrow Female 13 1828

Ok - found the baptism. You gave inaccurate info

Name: Elizabeth Emma Stokes
Gender: Female
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 19 Oct 1834
Baptism Place: Holborn St Giles in the Fields, Camden, England
Father: Joseph Stokes***************************************************BAKER
Mother: Mary Ann Stokes

Posting 1851 for reference

Name: Joseph Stoke
Age: 55
Estimated birth year: abt 1796
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Mary Ann Stoke
Gender: Male
Where born: Farnham, Surrey, England
Civil Parish: Erith
Ecclesiastical parish: Maidstone
County/Island: Kent
Country: England
Registration district: Dartford
Sub-registration district: Bexley
ED, institution, or vessel: 3a
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 57
Piece: 1607
Folio: 179
Page Number: 15
Household Members:
Name Age
Joseph Stoke 55****************************************FISHERMAN
Mary Ann Stoke 42 born DARTFORD,
Kinothy Weeks 19 Apprentice


Please C&P the actual baptism record for our INFO. Thank you

OR tell us where you found it

What makes you link the baptism to a couple who married in 1841?

Have you found the girl in 1841?

ArgyllGran I have come across births such as this one with Maria as she was born in Dartford Kent but she was living say in Marylebone and all the family births are Marylebone on the census.

Can I please have help with 1861 CENSUS

MARY ANN EVERSON BORN 1804 DARTFORD KENT
MARRIED JOSEPH STOKES 4/7/1841
I have taken this as correct due to the witness was her brother and his spouse
1851 census they were living in Erith Kent. Found a Death of Joseph Stokes 1868 Dartford Kent.

I found ELIZABETH EMMA STOKES born Drury Lane, St Giles in the Field camden Holborn Parents Joseph Stokes and Mary Ann 19th Oct 1836?
She is not on the 1851 census nor can I find a marriage or death

I shall be grateful for any help
Thank you
Rose

I'm not sure what you mean by :
"Sometimes Ive found that the household put wherever they are living at the time. I dont know if this is because theyve forgotten as theyve moved around or its easier for them."


Re that 1871 census I posted -

Maria's address was 8 Pear Tree Court.


"The houses in the Pear Tree Court area had been condemned as unfit for habitation by the local Medical Officer of Health, Dr J. W. Griffith, in 1875. Dilapidated and insanitary though they were, many had a picturesque quality, including a brick-and-timber group jutting out into the Close, removed to widen the roadway"
https://www.british-history.ac.uk/survey-london/vol46/pp54-71#h3-0007

safc posted (9 July) the birth of an unnamed female Clarke child with MMN Everson which would tally with Eliza's baptism

Thank you very much ladies

Malyon think James Clark bap 1833, Maria Clark born 1838 and Eliza born 4/1/1840
seem promising even though the family has moved around.

ArgyllGran This 1871 census looks promising Sometimes Ive found that the household put wherever they are living at the time. I dont know if this is because theyve forgotten as theyve moved around or its easier for them.

W|ill need to have a look see if I can find the 1841 census which should include 2 of the above children to see if they fit. Needs studying hmm

Rose

????

Deaths Mar 1841 (>99%)
CLARKE Maria Marylebone 1 241


Name: Age at Death (in years):
CLARKE, MARIA 42
GRO Reference: 1841 M Quarter in MARYLEBONE Volume 01 Page 241

??? 1871

Maria Clark
in the 1871 England Census
Name: Maria Clark
Age: 68
Estimated birth year: 1803
Relation: Wife [ Widow on image ]
Gender: Female
Where born: Marylebone Middlesex England
Civil Parish: Clerkenwell
Ecclesiastical parish: St James
County/Island: London
Country: England
Registration district: Holborn
Sub-registration district: St James Clerkenwell
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Household schedule number: 281
Piece: 379
Folio: 75
Page Number: 51
Household Members:
Name Age
Maria Clark 68


But she's not the only married or widowed Maria Clark born in Marylebone in or around 1802.

???

1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census

Frederick Street, St Pancras, London & Middlesex, England

First name(s) Last name Sex Age Birth year Birth place
James Clarke Male 35 1806 -
Maria Clarke Female 35 1806 -
Eliza Clarke Female 1 1840 Middlesex, England
Mary Clarke Female 12 1829 -
Charles Brown Male 30 1811 Middlesex, England
Jane Brown Female 25 1816 Middlesex, England
Charles Brown Male 1 1840 Middlesex, England
Jane Brown Female 5 1836 Middlesex, England
Thomas Osman Male 45 1796 Middlesex, England
Sarah Osman Female 40 1801 Middlesex, England
William Davis Male 50 1791 Wales
Mary Davis Female 40 1801 Wales
Sarah Davis Female 20 1821 Wales
John Davis Male 15 1826 Wales
Abraham Coles Female 30 1811 Kent, England

Maria Clark
England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
Name:
Maria Clark
Event Type:
Christening
Event Date:
10 May 1846
Event Place:
St Leonard's, Shoreditch, London, England, United Kingdom
Event Place (Original):
Saint Leonards, Shoreditch, London, England
Gender:
Female
Birth Date:
17 Aug 1838
Father's Name:
James Clark
Mother's Name:
Maria

Eliza Clark
England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
Name:
Eliza Clark
Event Type:
Christening
Event Date:
6 Apr 1845
Event Place:
Marylebone, London, England, United Kingdom
Event Place (Original):
All Souls, St Marylebone, London, England
Gender:
Female
Birth Date:
4 Jan 1840
Father's Name:
James Clark
Mother's Name:
Maria

James Clark
England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
Name:
James Clark
Event Type:
Christening
Event Date:
28 Apr 1833
Event Place:
Tenterden, Kent, England, United Kingdom
Event Place (Original):
Tenterden, Kent, England
Gender:
Male
Father's Name:
James Clark
Mother's Name:
Maria

alviegal When I was trying to find details last week the marriage of James Clark
came up on Ancestry and I didnt notice anybody else. After seeing your message
I had another look on Ancestry and other marriages appeared which I didnt see before. Im sure Ancestry pick and chose sometimes lol

I found a marriage of a Maria Everson to Cook, Stocker,Casbard, I have dismissed these as Maria's father was wrong

I took the details from the parish register and saw that the witnesses seemed to fit John Clark and Mary Everson. I have tried to find James Clark family but there wasnt anything in Kent, all far afield so think I will have to leave Maria for the time being
Thank you for your time
Rose

???

1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census

Titchfield Street, Great, St Marylebone, Marylebone, London & Middlesex, England

First name(s) Last name Sex Age Birth year Birth place
William Jones Male 50 1791 Middlesex, England
Eleonor Jones Female 50 1791 Middlesex, England
James White Male 35 1806 -
Elizabeth White Female 30 1811 Middlesex, England
Sarah McCavis Female 14 1827 Middlesex, England
>>Maria Clarke Female 40 1801 -
William Clarke Male 10 1831 Middlesex, England
Joseph Clarke Male 8 1833 Middlesex, England
Caroline Clarke Female 6 1835 Middlesex, England
Jane Clarke Female 4 1837 Middlesex, England
Charles Clarke Male 2 1839 Middlesex, England

If she married in 1828, she won’t be Everson/Eveson in 1841