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possible marriage for Harriett

Name: Harriet Moore
Gender: Female
Record Type: Marriage
Marriage Date: 31 Aug 1856
Marriage Place: St Mary, Newington, Southwark, England
Father: William Moore
Spouse: Thomas Newhouse
Register Type: Parish Register

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1861
Name: Harriet Newhouse
Age: 24
Estimated birth year: 1837
Relation: Wife
Spouse's name: Thomas Newhouse
Gender: Female
Where born: Newington, Surrey, England
Civil Parish: Southwark St George
Ecclesiastical parish: St George
County/Island: Surrey
Country: England
Street address:
Registration district: St George Southwark
Sub-registration district: London Road
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 51
Piece: 332
Folio: 62
Page Number: 11
Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas Newhouse 29 - Cap Peak Maker
Harriet Newhouse 24 - Cap Peak Stictcher


1871
Name: Harriet Newhouse
Age: 34
Estimated birth year: abt 1837
Relation: Wife
Spouse's name: Thomas Newhouse
Gender: Female
Where born: Newington, Surrey, England
Civil Parish: St Mary Newington
Ecclesiastical parish: Trinity
County/Island: London
Country: England
Registration district: St Saviour Southwark
Sub-registration district: Trinity Newington
ED, institution, or vessel: 12
Household schedule number: 71
Piece: 611
Folio: 124
Page Number: 11
Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas Newhouse 39
Harriet Newhouse 34
Thomas Newhouse 9
Edward Newhouse 7
Emily Neal 2
Caroline Lee 42


1881
Name: Harriet Newhouse
Age: 44
Estimated birth year: abt 1837
Relationship to Head: Wife
Spouse: Thomas Newhouse
Gender: Female
Where born: Newington, Surrey, England
Civil Parish: Newington
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street address: 19 Wellington St
Marital status: Married
Registration district: St Saviour Southwark
Sub registration district: Trinity Newington
ED, institution, or vessel: 12
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 534
Folio: 87
Page Number: 8
Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas Newhouse 49
Harriet Newhouse 44
Thomas Newhouse 19
Edward Newhouse 17
Emily Newhouse 12
Ester Newhouse 7

On my earlier post of 14:04 I did post possible birth details for two of the children,, from the 1841 census. I'll post them again for you here:-

MOORE, WILLIAM (mmn BRITTON) Order
GRO Reference: 1839 M Quarter in ST MARY NEWINGTON Volume 04 Page 355

MOORE, SARAH (mmn BRITTON) Order
GRO Reference: 1841 M Quarter in ST MARY NEWINGTON Volume 04 Page 340

both give mother's maiden name as Britton.


I found the tree on Ancestry, they seem to be following the Britton family as they have lots of info on that line but nothing on William Moore.

There was another daughter but she won't show on any census records as she died young:-

MOORE, ANN BRITTON Order
GRO Reference: 1845 S Quarter in ST MARY NEWINGTON Volume 04 Page 345

MOORE, ANN 5 Order
GRO Reference: 1850 S Quarter in ST MARY NEWINGTON Volume 04 Page 238

Catherine - where did you see this tree? It may be the breakthrough I have been looking for
C

I was thinking that perhaps Hannah was Britton and that she was Williams second wife but I can’t find the birth details of the older children nor the younger ones come to that. The first child MarybAnn was born around 1833.

MOORE, GEORGE (mmn FRANCIS) Order
GRO Reference: 1875 S Quarter in MILE END OLD TOWN Volume 01C Page 514

MOORE, MILLICENT ROSE (mmn FRANCIS) Order
GRO Reference: 1876 S Quarter in SAINT SAVIOUR SURREY Volume 01D Page 111

MOORE, HORACE FREDERICK (mmn FRANCIS) Order
GRO Reference: 1878 M Quarter in ST SAVIOUR Volume 01D Page 124

MOORE, PERCY WILLIAM (mmn FRANCIS) Order
GRO Reference: 1880 J Quarter in SAINT SAVIOUR SURREY Volume 01D Page 137

so looks like George married a Mary Ann Francis


Marriages Mar 1873 (>99%)
Francis Mary Ann Camberwell 1d 748
Moore George Camberwell 1d 748

I think the earliest a wedding would have been 1817 which would have put William as age 16

Thankyou, I had this but cannot find anything before the 1841 census. No marriage and nothing on their children. It’s so frustrating.
Thanks again
C

1861 for William and Hannah hasn't been posted so just posing this which looks to be them even though William's wife is noted as Sarah

1861
Name: Wm Moore
Age: 44
Estimated birth year: 1817
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Sarah Moore
Gender: Male
Where born: Westminster, Middlesex, England
Civil Parish: Newington St Mary
Ecclesiastical parish: Walworth St John
County/Island: Surrey
Country: England
Street address: 12a Banks Yard

Occupation: Fire Wood Cutter

Registration district: Newington
Sub-registration district: St Peter Walworth
ED, institution, or vessel: 49
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 30
Piece: 343
Folio: 96
Page Number: 6
Household Members:
Name Age
Wm Moore 44
Sarah Moore 48 - b. 1813 Bristol, Somerset
Sarah Moore 19 - Cap Peak Binder b. 1842 Newington, Surrey
George Moore 17 - Fire Wood Cutter b. 1844 Newington, Surrey

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1881 Hannah is living with son George
Name: George Moore
Age: 35
Estimated birth year: abt 1846
Relationship to Head: Head
Spouse: Mary Ann Moore
Mother: Hannah Moore
Gender: Male
Where born: Lambeth
Civil Parish: Newington
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street address: 25 Bronte Plc
Marital status: Married
Occupation: Firewood Cutter (5 Men) (Mercht)
Registration district: St Saviour Southwark
Sub registration district: St Peter Walworth
ED, institution, or vessel: 28
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 548
Folio: 27
Page Number: 47
Household Members:
Name Age
George Moore 35
Mary Ann Moore 38
***** Hannah Moore 70 ***** (widow)
George Moore 7
Millicent Moore 4
Horace Moore 3
Percy Moore 1
(not transcribed)
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wondering also if these may be relevant

possible death of Hannah
MOORE, HANNAH aged 76 (dob 1808)
GRO Reference: 1884 J Quarter in ST SAVIOUR SURREY Volume 01D Page 78
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MOORE, WILLIAM (mmn BRITTON) Order
GRO Reference: 1839 M Quarter in ST MARY NEWINGTON Volume 04 Page 355

MOORE, SARAH (mmn BRITTON) Order
GRO Reference: 1841 M Quarter in ST MARY NEWINGTON Volume 04 Page 340

so could Hannah's maiden name be Britton?

I stand corrected, I enlarged it and 18 it is.

Its 18 Symons St

George Moore
in the London, England, Church of England Marriages and Banns, 1754-1932
Name:
George Moore
Gender:
Male
Record Type:
Marriage
Marriage Date:
1 Jan 1844
Marriage Place:
St Luke, Chelsea, Kensington and Chelsea, England
Father:
Benjamin Moore
Spouse:
Mary Ann Fitchett
Register Type:
Parish Register

He's a gardener, his father a labourer, her father Stephen Fitchett a labourer. His address Blacklands? House, hers 1 Symons? St. Both of full age.

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this could be the above's marriage

Marriages Mar 1844 (>99%)
ALEXANDER William Gooding Chelsea 3 19
BATSTONE Elizabeth Ashford Chelsea 3 19
CHALK William Mark Chelsea 3 19
FITCHETT Mary Ann Chelsea 3 19 xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
MAYLARD Charles Chelsea 3 19
MOORE George Chelsea 3 19 xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
STILES Sarah Jane Chelsea 3 19
WADERSON Caroline Augusta Chelsea 3 19

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Record Transcription:
1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census

Chapel Place, Kensington, London & Middlesex, England

Sarah Moore's Household Members
Members that resided in the household at the time of the census.
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
George Moore Head Married Male 25 1826 Warehousewoman London, Middlesex, England
Mary Ann Moore Wife Married Female 26 1825 - Oxfordshire, England
Susan Moore Daughter - Female 5 1846 - Fulham, Middlesex, England
Sarah Moore Daughter - Female 3 1848 - Lambeth, Surrey, England
George Moore Son - Male 1 1850 - Lambeth, Surrey, England

MOORE, WILLIAM HENRY MMN FITCHETT Order
GRO Reference: 1853 S Quarter in BRENTFORD Volume 03A Page 64



only death to fit for earlier William

MOORE, WILLIAM 11 Order
GRO Reference: 1852 S Quarter in WHITECHAPEL Volume 01C Page 270

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Name: Mother's Maiden Surname:
MOORE, SARAH MARIA FITCHETT Order
GRO Reference: 1848 J Quarter in LAMBETH Volume 04 Page 222

MOORE, GEORGE FITCHETT Order
GRO Reference: 1850 M Quarter in LAMBETH Volume 04 Page 273

Record Transcription:
1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census

Thomas Street, St Mary Newington, Newington, London & Surrey, England

Mary Ann Moore's Household Members
Members that resided in the household at the time of the census.
First name(s) Last name Sex Age Birth year Birth place
William Moore Male 26 1815 -
Hannah Moore Female 30 1811 -
Mary Ann Moore Female 7 1834 -
Harriot Moore Female 5 1836 Surrey, England
William Moore Male 3 1838 Surrey, England
Sarah Moore Female 0 1841 Surrey, England

william is a wood cutter

1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Thomas Street, St Mary Newington, Newington, London & Surrey, England

First name(s) Last name Sex Age Birth year Birth place
William Moore Male 26 1815 -
Hannah Moore Female 30 1811 -
Mary Ann Moore Female 7 1834 -
Harriot Moore Female 5 1836 Surrey, England
William Moore Male 3 1838 Surrey, England
Sarah Moore Female 0 1841 Surrey, England

Ages a bit out from 1851 census, but the original of that doesn't give George as aged 6 - possibly 0, especially as listed after 2 year old Sarah
And if there is a Sarah aged 0 in 1841 then, she presumably has died and the 1851 Sarah b 1848/49 has been named for her

William a Wood Cutter

Record Transcription:
1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census

George Street, Saint Mary Newington, Newington, London & Surrey, England

George Moore's Household Members
Members that resided in the household at the time of the census.
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
William Moore Head Married Male 34 1817 Wood Cutter Westminster, Middlesex, England
Hannah Moore Wife Married Female 40 1811 - Westminster, Middlesex, England
Mary Ann Moore Daughter Unmarried Female 18 1833 - Westminster, Middlesex, England
Harriett Moore Daughter Unmarried Female 14 1837 - Newington, Surrey, England
William Moore Son Unmarried Male 11 1840 - Newington, Surrey, England
Sarah Moore Daughter Unmarried Female 2 1849 - Newington, Surrey, England
George Moore Son Unmarried Male 6 1845 - Newington, Surrey, England

Born 4th quarter 1851 wouldn't be on 1851 census