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Jane Pass (nee Byers)

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Marian

Marian Report 21 Jan 2019 18:36

Thank you both so much. My local library have started charging to use their family history websites so I rely more and more on Genes. Thank you again.


ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 20 Jan 2019 21:02

Moses Newman
in the UK, Outward Passenger Lists, 1890-1960
Name: Moses Newman
Gender: Male
Age: 9
Birth Date: abt 1881
Departure Date: 22 Apr 1890
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England
Destination Port: Philadelphia, USA
Ship Name: Lord Clive
Master: Urquhart

Travelling with Hannah 36, John 11, William 4, and another male sibling whose name I can't make out ( I suppose he must be Thomas) , aged 6.

Moses senior must have gone out ahead of them

alviegal

alviegal Report 20 Jan 2019 20:55

So here is the proof that this is definitely Hannah.

Hannah Newman

in the Pennsylvania, Death Certificates, 1906-1966


Name: Hannah Newman
[Hannah Pass]
Gender: Female
Race: White
Age: 84
Birth Date: 31 Aug 1853
Birth Place: England
Death Date: 19 Aug 1938
Death Place: Wilkes-Barre, Luzerne, Pennsylvania, USA
Father: Edward Pass
Mother: ------ Beyer
Certificate Number: 73262


Principal case of death was senility. She was a widow of 220 Hollenback Avenue, Parsons. Moses Newman was the informant.

alviegal

alviegal Report 20 Jan 2019 20:51

Martha Jane's death.

MARTHA JANE
Last name NEWMAN
Gender Female
Birth year 1879
Age 2
Death quarter 2
Death year 1881
District Guisborough
County Yorkshire
Volume 9D
Page 312

alviegal

alviegal Report 20 Jan 2019 20:28

Looks like they emigrated to the US.


Record Transcription:
Us Census 1900

City/township Miners Mills
County Luzerne
State Pennsylvania

Moses Newman Self Married Male 50 1850 England
Hannah Newman Wife Married Female 48 1852 England
John E Newman Son Single Male 23 1877 England
Moses Newman Son Single Male 22 1878 England Immigration year 1890
William Newman Son Single Male 17 1883 England
Thomas Newman Son Single Male 15 1885 England
Catharine Newman Daughter Single Female 8 1892 Pennsylvania
Robert E Newman Son Single Male 6 1894 Pennsylvania




Us Census 1910

City/township Parsons
County Luzerne
State Pennsylvania


Moses Newman Self Married Male 49 1861 labourer in Coal Mines
Hanna Newman Wife Married Female 56 1854
Thomas Newman Son Single Male 25 1885 polisher at Axel Works
Catherine Newman Daughter Single Female 18 1892
Robert Newman Son Single Male 15 1895 labourer in Tin Factory



Hannah Newman

in the 1920 United States Federal Census


Name: Hannah Newman
Age: 64
Birth Year: abt 1856
Birthplace: England
Home in 1920: Parsons, Luzerne, Pennsylvania
Street: Conyngham Ave
Residence Date: 1920
Race: White
Gender: Female
Immigration Year: 1889
Relation to Head of House: Mother-in-law
Marital status: Widowed
Father's Birthplace: England
Mother's Birthplace: England
Native Tongue: English
Able to Speak English: Yes
Naturalization Status: Naturalized
Able to Read: Yes
Able to Write: Yes
Neighbors:
Household Members:
Name Age
Chas W Penhale 31
Katherine Penhale 24
Hannah Newman 64




Hannah Newman

in the 1930 United States Federal Census

Name: Hannah Newman
Birth Year: abt 1854
Gender: Female
Race: White
Birthplace: England
Marital status: Widowed
Relation to Head of House: Mother-in-law
Home in 1930: Wilkes-Barre, Luzerne, Pennsylvania, USA
Map of Home: View Map
Street address: No. Franklin Street
Ward of City: First
House Number: 589
Dwelling Number: 138
Family Number: 160
Age at first Marriage: 23
Attended School: No
Able to Read and Write: Yes
Father's Birthplace: England
Mother's Birthplace: England
Language Spoken: English
Immigration Year: 1887
Naturalization: Naturalized
Able to Speak English: Yes
Household Members:
Name Age
Charles Penhale 42
Katherine Penhale 37
Hannah Newman 76

alviegal

alviegal Report 20 Jan 2019 20:16

Well found Argyll! Wonder if the girls preferred their middle names? Here is Isabella's marriage. Her father Edward is a sailor. Robert Benson and Mary Wilson are witnesses.

First name(s) Isabella
Last name Pass
Age 23
Birth year 1853
Residence Moorsholme
Marriage year 1876
Marriage date 09 Aug 1876
Marriage place Skelton
Spouse's first name(s) Moses
Spouse's last name Newman
Spouse's age 25
Spouse's residence Lingdale
Father's first name(s) Edward
Father's last name Pass
Spouse's father's first name(s) John
Spouse's father's last name Newman
County Yorkshire (North Riding)
Country England
Archive reference PR/SK 1/20
Page 47

Marian

Marian Report 20 Jan 2019 19:05

Hello Alvie/Argyll, certainly gives me food for thought. It always amazes me how the simple names get mistranscribed. I like Hannah Puss. Thank you both.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 20 Jan 2019 13:50

Hannah in 1871 ??



Hannah Puss
in the 1871 England Census
Name: Hannah Puss
Age: 17
Estimated birth year: abt 1854
Relation: Servant
Gender: Female
Where born: Guistro, Yorkshire, England
Civil Parish: St Cuthbert
County/Island: Durham
Country: England
Registration district: Darlington
Sub-registration district: Darlington
ED, institution, or vessel: 24
Household schedule number: 92
Piece: 4885
Folio: 14
Page Number: 21
Household Members:
Name Age
Eliza Fawcett 58
Ralph Fawcett 31
Mary Eliza Fawcett 29
John Barker 18
Hannah Puss 17

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 20 Jan 2019 13:35

Maybe Hannah ??? Note the children's middle names.


Hannah Isabella Newman
in the 1881 England Census
Name: Hannah Isabella Newman
Age: 27
Estimated birth year: abt 1854
Relationship to Head: Wife
Spouse: Moses Newman
Gender: Female
Where born: Guisbro, Yorkshire, England
Civil Parish: Skelton in Guisbrough
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Street address: 3 Scarth St
Marital status: Married
Registration district: Guisborough
ED, institution, or vessel: 12
Neighbors:
Piece: 4842
Folio: 29
Page Number: 51
Household Members:
Name Age
Moses Newman 30 - ironstone miner, Sutton, Cambridgeshire
Hannah Isabella Newman 27
John Edwd. Newman 3
Martha Jane Newman 2
Moses Newman


NEWMAN, MOSES mms PASE
GRO Reference: 1880 S Quarter in GUISBROUGH Volume 09D Page 508

NEWMAN, JOHN EDWARD mms PASS
GRO Reference: 1877 J Quarter in GUISBROUGH Volume 09D Page 537

NEWMAN, MARTHA JANE mms PASS
GRO Reference: 1878 D Quarter in GUISBROUGH Volume 09D Page 525


Moses Newman
in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Marriage Index, 1837-1915
Name: Moses Newman
Registration Year: 1876
Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep
Registration district: Guisborough
Inferred County: Yorkshire North Riding
Volume: 9d
Page: 711
Records on Page:
Name
Moses Newman
Isabella Pass

alviegal

alviegal Report 20 Jan 2019 07:06

Is this Robert's birth?

ROBERT
Last name BYERS
Birth year 1849
Birth quarter 1
Registration month -
Mother's maiden name -
District Stockton
County Durham
Country England

I can't find any for the girls?

alviegal

alviegal Report 19 Jan 2019 22:38

Just putting this out here. No idea if connected or not.

1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census

Lord Street Zetland Place, Redcar, Guisborough, Yorkshire & Yorkshire (North Riding), England

Robert Pearson Skinner Head - Male 33 1838 - Yorkshire, England
Isabel Skinner Wife - Female 22 1849 - Yorkshire, England
John Skinner Son - Male 1 1870 - Yorkshire, England
>>Agnes Pass Servant - Female 19 1852 - Yorkshire, England
Thomas Upton Son - Male 16 1855 - Yorkshire, England
John Chas Wright Nephew - Male 11 1860 - Yorkshire, England


Father is Edward Pass, mariner.

First name(s) Agnes
Last name Pass
Age Full Age
Residence Garden Street
Marriage year 1875
Marriage date 18 Oct 1875
Marriage place Middlesbrough, St John
Spouse's first name(s) Edward
Spouse's last name West
Spouse's age Full Age
Spouse's residence Kent Street
Father's first name(s) Edward
Father's last name Pass
Spouse's father's first name(s) George
Spouse's father's last name West



1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census

25, Kent Street, Middlesbrough, Yorkshire & Yorkshire (North Riding), England

>>Agnes West Head - Female 28 1853 Mariners Wife Guisborough, Yorkshire, England
George E West Son Single Male 4 1877 - Middlesbrough, Yorkshire, England
Rose E West Daughter Single Female 2 1879 - Middlesbrough, Yorkshire, England
Agnes West Daughter Single Female 0 1881 (Etm) Middlesbrough, Yorkshire, England
Charles Alden Lodger Single Male 24 1857 Engine Fitter (Machine E & M) Bradford, Yorkshire, England


First name(s) Agnes
Last name West
Age 39
Birth year 1851
Death year 1890
Burial year 1890
Burial date 03 Jul 1890
Church St Cuthbert
Denomination Anglican
Place Ormesby

Marian

Marian Report 19 Jan 2019 21:21

Thank you Argyl, would never have found that.

Marian

Marian Report 19 Jan 2019 21:18

Hello Kay, I don't think this is my Hannah as this one is with her grand mother on the 1861 census but thanks anyway.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 19 Jan 2019 21:13

Mistranscribed in 1871:


Jane Vass
in the 1871 England Census
Name: Jane Vass
Age: 47
Estimated birth year: abt 1824
Relation: Visitor
Gender: Female
Where born: Guisborough, Yorkshire, England
Civil Parish: Skelton
Ecclesiastical parish: Skelton in Cleveland of York
Town: Skelton in Cleveland
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Registration district: Guisborough
Sub-registration district: Marske
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Household schedule number: 18
Piece: 4853
Folio: 28
Page Number: 4
Household Members:
Name Age
John Elwood 29
Cartline Elwood 26
Arthur Elwood 4
James Elwood 3
Eleanor Elwood 1 Month
Jane Vass 47 - nurse

Kay????

Kay???? Report 19 Jan 2019 21:05


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Name:
Hannah Pass
Age:
18
Estimated birth year:
abt 1853
Relation:
Servant
Gender:
Female
Where born:
Rotherham, Yorkshire, England
Civil Parish:
Ecclesall Bierlow
Ecclesiastical parish:
St Matthew
Town:
Sheffield
County/Island:
Yorkshire
Country:
England
Registration district:
Ecclesall Bierlow
Sub-registration district:
Ecclesall Bierlow
ED, institution, or vessel:
2
Household schedule number:
33
Piece:
4668
Folio:
30
Page Number:
8.


?

Marian

Marian Report 19 Jan 2019 20:48

Hello safc, any luck with the 1871? I thought the Lee family may have been a relative of Jane but Mary Jane maiden name is Bell.

safc

safc Report 19 Jan 2019 20:35

for info

Record Transcription:
1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census

Church Street, Guisborough, Yorkshire & Yorkshire (North Riding), England
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Jane Pass's Household Members
Members that resided in the household at the time of the census.
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Jane Pass Head Married Female 38 1823 Dressmaker Guisborough, Yorkshire, England
Robert Pass Son Unmarried Male 12 1849 Scholar Guisborough, Yorkshire, England
Mary A Pass Daughter - Female 10 1851 Scholar Guisborough, Yorkshire, England
Hannah J Pass Daughter - Female 8 1853 Scholar Guisborough, Yorkshire, England

safc

safc Report 19 Jan 2019 20:34

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Record Transcription:
1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census

4, Brunswick Street, Stockton upon Tees, Stockton, Durham, England

Jane Pass's Household Members
Members that resided in the household at the time of the census.
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Robert Lee Head Married Male 29 1852 Iron Monger Thirsk, Yorkshire, England
Mary Jane Lee Wife Married Female 31 1850 - Stockton, Durham, England
Walter Lee Son Single Male 1 1880 - Stockton, Durham, England
Jane Pass Visitor Widow Female 58 1823 Nurse (Dom) Guisborough, Yorkshire, England
Martha Dack Servant Single Female 16 1865 General Servant Norfolk, England

Marian

Marian Report 19 Jan 2019 20:30

Hello, Jane Byers marries Edward Pass 5 March 1849 at St Thomas, Stockton on Tees, Co Durham. (Jane baptised 16/7/1822 at Guisborough, Yorkshire). Edward born Easington, Yorkshire. I have all the census for son Robert but I cannot find Jane after 1861 or the two girls. As Edward was a sailor, he may have died at sea.

This is 1861 census

1861 census Church Street Guisborough

Jane Pass 38 married dressmaker
Robert Pass 12 son Guis
Mary A Pass 10 daughter Guis
Hannah J Pass 8 daughter Guis

I think below is Edward although it says born Barlby

1861 census Stockton Street Stranton

Jane Watson 33 head unmarried Guisborough
Robert Watson 51 brother mariner Guisborough
George Watson 43 brother boot and shoemaker Guisborough
Mary Jane Watson 10 niece Guisborough – George daughter
John Augusta Watson 2 nephew Guisborough
Edward Pass 38 mariner Barlby Yorkshire

Below is the 1871 census for Lofthouse Yorkshire but this is Edward's mother, his sister and his nephew.

1871 Lofthouse Yorkshire

Jane 59 single dressmaker Lofthouse Yorkshire
John 20 son Easington Yorkshire blacksmith (illegitimate?)
Elizabeth Pass 89 mother widowed Easington Yorkshire

Found this for Jane for 1881 but not sure

1881 census Brunswick Street Stockton

Robert Lee 29 Thirsk
Mary Jane Lee 31 Stockton
Walter Lee 1 Stockton
Jane Pass 58 visitor Guisborough nurse domestic widow
Martha Dack 16 servant Norfolk

There is a death for a Jane Pass Sept q 1895 aged 73 middlesbrough area which would fit Jane's date of birth.

Can anyone find Jane or the girls 1871 onwards? The above census are off family search.

Hope the above makes sense.

Thank you.