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Many thanks Kense! This certainly ties everything regarding age / dates etc. A great find!

Will have a think on this one.....

Thanks also for the Moses Hickman entry too......

Moses Hickman son of John Hickman, a carpenter, baptised 1769 Sep 24th at Chelmsford.

For information the other Finch baptisms at Brentwood around that time were:
22 Mar 1782 Samuel son of James & Elizabeth
13 Mar 1788 Frederick son of James & Elizabeth
Oct 29 1790 Sarah daughter of George & Ann

I have found a baptism for a Henry Finch at Brentwood (St Thomas of Canterbury) on 27 October 1782. Parents are John & Ann Finch.

There is a brother James baptised on July 12 1785, and three other Finches baptised in that decade but with different parents.

Unfortunately there are no records for marriages in the period 1753-1837 apart from some incomplete transcripts available in the Essex Record Office.

The record for the Henry Finch baptism is SEAX ref D/P 362/1/2 Image no. 36.

You are correct ArgyllGran. Nothing totally proved in this case but I take the decision to 'accept' this William Finch b1765 as my ancestor.

If I am wrong, then I am wrong. Entirely my fault if I am. Of course I take it with a pinch of salt.

It just feels right. With the Hickman connection coming from the same sort of area...


Thanks Kense for your information too

I can't add to the Henry Finch mystery but on the other branch, the Sandon parish register has the marriage of Moses Hickman.

8th November 1791, by licence, Moses Hickman bachelor of Sandon to Elizabeth Shuttleworth spinster of Chelmsford, witnesses Eliza Hartley and John Rolfe. John Rolfe was a witness to all the weddings on that page.

The next wedding in the book was John Finch and Margaret Polley in November 1791.

The actual wording of Martha Hickman's baptism is:
Martha Mary the daughter of Moses Hickman by Elizabeth his wife was half baptised at home (being ill) September 17th 1792. Received at church October 24th 1792.

That's assuming that Henry from Margaretting is the correct one.
There's no proof!

Thanks ArgyllGran for the info......

Another bit solved!

In view of the fact that he had a son named Augustin, perhaps this is William (Henry's father)'s christening?



William Finch
England, Essex Parish Registers
Name William Finch
Event Type Christening
Event Date 13 Nov 1765
Event Place , Margaretting, Essex, England
Gender Male
Father's Name Augustinus Finch
Mother's Name Mary Finch


And maybe a brother:

Augustin Finch
in the Essex, England, Select Church of England Parish Registers, 1518-1960
Name: Augustin Finch
Gender: Male
Baptism Date: 17 Jul 1763
Baptism Place: Margaretting, Essex, England
Father: Augustin Finch
Mother: Mary
FHL Film Number: 000857079

But John 1811 and Mary 1812 could be the children of William 1785, and therefore nephew and niece of Henry.

Possibly William 1785's marriage:

William Finch
in the Essex, England, Select Church of England Parish Registers, 1518-1960
Name: William Finch
Gender: Male
Marital Status: Single
Marriage Date: 1 Dec 1807
Marriage Place: Margaretting, Essex, England
Spouse: Mary Spink
FHL Film Number: 000857079

Charles Finch
England, Essex Parish Registers, 1538-1997
christening:
4 June 1798
, Margaretting, Essex, England
father:
William Finch


William Finch
England, Essex Parish Registers, 1538-1997
christening:
29 December 1785
, Margaretting, Essex, England
father:
William Finch


Mary Finch
England, Essex Parish Registers, 1538-1997
christening:
23 August 1812
, Margaretting, Essex, England
father:
William Finch
mother:
Mary Finch <<<<<<<<<<<<<


Augustin Finch
England, Essex Parish Registers, 1538-1997
christening:
14 August 1792
, Margaretting, Essex, England
father:
William Finch


Elizabeth Finch
England, Essex Parish Registers, 1538-1997
christening:
4 September 1796
, Margaretting, Essex, England
father:
William Finch


Letitia Finch
England, Essex Parish Registers, 1538-1997
christening:
25 October 1789
, Margaretting, Essex, England
father:
William Finch


John Matthew Finch
England, Essex Parish Registers, 1538-1997
christening:
3 April 1791
, Margaretting, Essex, England
father:
William Finch


John Finch
England, Essex Parish Registers, 1538-1997
christening:
7 February 1811
, Margaretting, Essex, England
father:
William
mother:
Mary


Mary Finch
England, Essex Parish Registers, 1538-1997
christening:
23 April 1782
, Margaretting, Essex, England
father:
William Finch

Thanks ArgyllGran. So, it appears that Henry from Dover isn't the one at this present time.

Malyon, thanks for finding that entry for me.

So, this leaves us at the moment with Henry from Margaretting, Essex.

Does this Henry, son of William Finch, have any siblings ? And what is his mother's name?

In the 1841 census ages should have been rounded down to the nearest multiple of five for those over 15. That explains the age discrepancy in the previous post.

This looks like Malyon's Dover Henry in 1851 - so not your Henry, Marcus..

By coincidence, he's a carpenter

Henry Finch
in the 1851 England Census
Name: Henry Finch
Age: 69
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1782
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Sarah Finch
Gender: Male
Where born: Dover, Kent, England
Civil Parish: Walmer
Phillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Maps:
View related Ecclesiastical Parish
County/Island: Kent
Country: England
Registration district: Eastry
Sub-registration district: Sandwich
ED, institution, or vessel: 7a
Neighbors:
Household schedule number: 111
Piece: 1631
Folio: 570
Page Number: 32
Household Members:
Name Age
Henry Finch 69
Sarah Finch 67
Susan Williams 15 - servant

And probably the same couple in 1841, though ages are a few years out;

Henry Finch
in the 1841 England Census
Name: Henry Finch
Age: 55
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1786
Gender: Male
Where born: Kent, England
Civil Parish: Walmer
Hundred: Cornilo
County/Island: Kent
Country: England
Registration district: Eastry
Sub-registration district: Deal
Neighbors:
Piece: 470
Book: 17
Folio: 15
Page Number: 23
Household Members:
Name Age
Henry Finch 55 - builder
Sarah Finch 55
Susanna Finch 20


Henry Finch
in the England, Select Marriages, 1538–1973
Name: Henry Finch
Gender: Male
Marriage Date: 5 Dec 1803
Marriage Place: Walmer, Kent, England
Spouse: Sarah Culling
FHL Film Number: 1866577
Reference ID: item 1

i still think it could be dover mother named susanna henry had a daughter susannah

Thanks everyone for replies so far!

I personally think that Henry was born in Essex rather than Middlesex but have never been sure, but the Chelmsford / Sandon is a strong possibility. Just a hunch on my part, nothing else.

ArgyllGran, your last post about Margaretting seems possible, even though 5 years out.

Malyon, date wise it fits, but Dover? Possible as people did move around a lot for work etc.....

Yes, Martha remarried to James Lamberth / Lambuth.


Thanks again!

????
Margaretting is also very close to Chelmsford -

Henry Finch
in the Essex, England, Select Church of England Parish Registers, 1518-1960
Name: Henry Finch
Gender: Male
Baptism Date: 27 Dec 1787
Baptism Place: Margaretting, Essex, England
Father: Wm Finch
FHL Film Number: 000857079

Maybe Henry ???



Harry Finch
England, Essex Parish Registers
Name Harry Finch
Event Type Christening
Event Date 07 Apr 1793
Event Place Sandon, Essex, England
Gender Male
Father's Name John Finch
Mother's Name Anne


EDIT:

No, this one's ten years younger.

1861 says Martha was born in Sandon - so that birth's correct, Gwyn.


Matha Lamberth
in the 1861 England Census
Name: Matha Lamberth
Age: 68
Estimated Birth Year: 1793
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: James H Lamberth
Gender: Female
Where born: Sandon, Essex, England
Civil Parish: Stepney
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England
Registration district: Mile End Old Town
Sub-registration district: Mile End Old Town Eastern
ED, institution, or vessel: 23
Neighbors:
Household schedule number: 203
Piece: 296
Folio: 136
Page Number: 36
Household Members:
Name Age
James H Lamberth 71
Matha Lamberth 68

James Henry Lambirth
in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Marriage Index, 1837-1915
Name: James Henry Lambirth
Registration Year: 1850
Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep
Registration district: St George in the East
Inferred County: London
Volume: 2
Page: 88
Records on Page:
Name

Martha Mary Finch
James Henry Lambirth