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Olive Jean
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26 Aug 2018 08:14 |
Good Morning to you all
I have been looking through the info you have all sent me and just wondered who
Christopher Keane born 1903 25th December he is on 1939 Register Middlesex UK with Leo Keane and his wife Mary
I wondered if it is the Christopher Keane on the 1911 Census for Ireland This Christopher Keane is wth his Father James Keane and Mother Catherine Maybe they are Keane brothers Living in England ?. Thankyou Olive
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ArgyllGran
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26 Aug 2018 14:22 |
Yes Christopher is Leo's brother, and is listed in both 1911 and 1939.
I posted his baptism record on page 2 of this thread, and the DOB is the same as in 1939.
In 1939 he was a labourer at a steel works.
I can't see his death definitively yet.
Maybe a possibility:
Deaths Dec 1943 (>99%) Keane Christopher 35 Fulham 1a 388
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Olive Jean
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26 Aug 2018 15:36 |
Thankyou again I thought maybe they were brothers Would it be possible to find their immigration for the entry into England at all
As for their deaths maybe they went back to Ireland sometime
Yes I have read the Census and 1939 Register Thankyou again Sorry to keep asking questions Olive
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ArgyllGran
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26 Aug 2018 17:31 |
We're always delighted to answer questions!
No, there will be no record of their travel from Ireland to England - that doesn't count as immigration.
It may have been after Leo senior's marriage in 1936 - but of course he may have been in England already, and just travelled back to Ireland for the wedding.
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ArgyllGran
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26 Aug 2018 18:07 |
Re the possible Fulham death of Christopher in 1943 -
in 1946 Leo senior and Mary are living at 42 Broomhouse Road, Fulham:
Leo Keane in the London, England, Electoral Registers, 1832-1965 Name: Leo Keane Year: 1946 County or Borough: Hammersmith and Fulham Ward or Division/Constituency: Fulham East and West Street address: 42 Broom Villa [mistranscription - actually Broomhouse Road ]
They're still there in 1965, along with young Leo, who is listed as a Service Voter:
Leo Keane Sr in the London, England, Electoral Registers, 1832-1965 Name: Leo Keane Sr Year: 1965 County or Borough: Fulham Ward or Division/Constituency: Fulham Street address: 42 Churchfield Mansions (mistranscribed - actually Broomhouse Road) Reference Number: LCC/PER/B/3018
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Olive Jean
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26 Aug 2018 19:52 |
Thankyou once again For the London Electorals Registers
It mentions Young Leo Keane who is listed as a Service Voter Does that mean he was in the Forces
Thankyou Olive
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ArgyllGran
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26 Aug 2018 21:42 |
Yes, it does. I don't know anything about his service record, though.
Here's an army record for his father;
Leo Keane in the Web: Ireland, National Army Census, 1922 Name: Leo Keane Military Year: 1922 Military Place: Macroom, Cork, Ireland Page Number: 68
Regimental Number 24096. Rank: Sec. Sergt. in the Infantry reserves [Not sure what "sec" stands for - Section ?? ] Address: Lodge Glasheen Road, Cork. Number on pay book: 04046 Date of attestation: 22/08/1922. Place of attestation: Female Prison, Cork. Religion: RC NOK: Mother, Kath Keane, Lodge Glasheen Road, Cork.
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Olive Jean
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27 Aug 2018 06:30 |
All I can say is WOW It’s amazing how you find all this information
So Thankyou once again
Would I be able to find the army records for Ireland If I went into the local Library On Ancestry Co uk (Ireland )
Bye for now and a Big Thankyou Olive
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27 Aug 2018 10:13 |
Online military records have a cut-off of 1921 for Eire, & 1922 for the UK. The latter are held by the MOD & cost £30 to be sent a copy. It’s probably the same for the Eire Defence Forces.
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Olive Jean
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27 Aug 2018 10:33 |
Thankyou for your reply
I have been looking on the Census for Ireland 1911 and 1901 Census, Which I have found it states only by luck James Joseph Keane born 1870 Ish Ireland in the Prison Service Would we be able to find any information Bye for now PS I wonder who his Mother and Father were Olive
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27 Aug 2018 10:53 |
2. The British Army: The original records are all in the British National Archives in London (www.nationalarchives.gov.uk). Their Medal Card records are very useful for First World Ward servicemen. Surviving service records of the First World War are transcribed at www.ancestry.co.uk. Pre-1914 service and pension records are at www.findmypast.co.uk.
https://www.irishgenealogy.ie
Remember that that up to 70% of WW1 Records were destroyed during WW2 bombing.
There must be an email link or ‘contact us’ button somewhere to ask about Eire pre & post 1922 prison officer records. Bear in mind that Partition took place in May 1921. It’s difficult to guess where the records ended up.
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ArgyllGran
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27 Aug 2018 11:39 |
I don't see James Joseph's birth online, but if you were to buy a copy of his marriage record (posted on page 2 - on 25 Aug @ 16:22) it should at least give his father's name.
There's a record of a James Keane born in Dublin in 1871 - but no middle name. I don't think it's him, but I'll post it just in case:
SR District/Reg Area - Dublin South Birth of JAMES KEANE in 1871 Name JAMES KEANE Date of Birth 1871 Group Registration ID 9695153 SR District/Reg Area Dublin South
22 Aug 1871 at 67 Grange Lane. Father: John Keane, 67 Grange Lane, fitter. Mother: Maria Keane, formerly Keenan. Informant: Catherine Keenan, present at birth, 67 Grange Lane.
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Olive Jean
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27 Aug 2018 12:05 |
Thankyou once again I have found quite a lot of the Keane Family with the help of you all
It amazing where you all find it from Bye for now a Big Thankyou once again
Olive
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Olive Jean
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21 Sep 2018 00:03 |
Hi I'm not sure where to ask this request
Would it be possible to find a 1945 Electerole for Luton Bedfordshire
Frederick J Bowler Mary Ann Emma Bowler Frederick J J Bowler Mary O Bowler Olive J Bowler Living at
6 Third Avenue. Sundon Park .Luton . Bedfordshire
Thankyou Olive
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ErikaH
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21 Sep 2018 13:29 |
The record may possibly be at the main library in Luton - searchable by address and listing only residents aged 21 or over. The Electoral Roll will not give you any info other than the names of people at the address
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21 Sep 2018 13:35 |
Your parents' marriage
Marriages Mar 1940 (>99%) Bowler Frederick J J Cooke Basford 7b 577 Cooke Mary O Bowler Basford 7b 577
...............and that of your grandparents
Marriages Jun 1909 (>99%) BOWLER Frederick John Reading 2c 819 WHITTS Mary Ann E Reading 2c 819
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ErikaH
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21 Sep 2018 13:42 |
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Bowler Household (3 People) The Bull Inn , Sevenoaks R.D., Kent, England
Frederick J J Bowler 12 Feb 1912 Male Motor Lorry Driver Single 19 3 Frederick J Bowler 03 Oct 1883 Male License Public Home Married 19 1 Mary A E Bowler 29 May 1883 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 19 2
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Olive Jean
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21 Sep 2018 17:01 |
Hi Thankyou for your reply I will Email Luton Library or FHS To see if they can help me
The trouble with my Grand Parents they seam to travel around the Country They managed quite a few Public Houses Over the years
But I know they lived in the Luton area from about 1942 to 1952 until they both passed away Bye fro now And thankyou Olive
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21 Sep 2018 17:22 |
Name: Frederick John Bowler Death Date: 3 Jan 1951 Death Place: Bedfordshire, Bedford, England Probate Date: 19 Jun 1951 Registry: London, England
Address at death 315, Beechwood Road, Luton
Name: Mary Ann Emma Bowler Death Date: 10 Apr 1952 Death Place: Bedfordshire, Bedford, England Probate Date: 31 May 1952 Registry: London, England
Same address as above
Probate in both cases to Ronald Edwin Bowler, vehicle driver
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Olive Jean
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21 Sep 2018 17:42 |
Hi Thankyou for you reply I have the Death Certificate of my Grandfather But not my Grandmother or my Father Frederick John James Bowler born 1912 Wycombe Buckingham My Father died 1950 Luton Beds
Ronald Edwin Bowler born 1914 was my uncle He lived with his parents @ 315 Beechwood Road Luton Beds1948 -1952
I can remember the GrandParents living at 6 third Avenue Sundon Park Luton Beds Maybe 1943-1947 ??? Bye for now Olive
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