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I wonder if someone could find the emmigration records for John McDonald (McDonnall) b. c 1850 Ireland, wife Mary nee Butler b c 1850 Ireland son John b.1875, Calton, Glasgow and son Patrick b.1877, Calton, Glasgow.
According to a tree on Ancestry they emmigrated 1887/1888 to Scranton, Pennsylvania .
In 1881 the family are living at 16, Kirk Street , Calton and 1871 at 74 1/2 Kirk Street.

My main reason for asking is I am still looking for a cousin of the Butler family who also lived in Kirk Street in 1881, her name is Mary Wright b 1870 and mother Elizabeth nee McCuskey and wondered if both Mother and Daughter might have gone to U.S as I cannot seem to find a death for either on Scotlandspeople .

I have a thread on here somewhere about Elizabeth's 2 son, Henry and John Wright and now have all the information on them I need but am finding it diificult to find what happened to Elizabeth and Mary.

Thank you

Elizabeth's husband John Wright remarried in 1888 in Glasgow, Marriage cert. shows him as a widower.

For our reference:



John McDonald
in the 1881 Scotland Census
Name: John McDonald
Age: 32
Estimated birth year: abt 1849
Relationship: Head
Spouse's name : Margret McDonald
Gender: Male
Where born: Ireland, Co Tyrone
Registration Number: 644/4
Registration district: Calton
Civil Parish: Glasgow Barony
County: Lanarkshire
Address: 16 Kirk Street
Occupation: Labourer
ED: 41
Household schedule number: 98
LINE: 17
Roll: cssct1881_224
Household Members:
Name Age
John McDonald 32
Margret McDonald 29 - wife
John McDonald 8
Patrick McDonald 5
Mary Butler 64 - mother-in-law
John Connely 17 - boarder

Thank you ArgyllGran,
Sorry still don't know how to copy and paste.

Also for helpers' reference (is this the correct family, Jean ?):

Mary Wright
in the 1881 Scotland Census
Name: Mary Wright
Age: 10
Estimated birth year: abt 1871
Relationship: Niece
Gender: Female
Where born: Glasgow, Lanarkshire
Registration Number: 644/4
Registration district: Calton
Civil Parish: Glasgow Barony
County: Lanarkshire
Address: 74½
Occupation: Scholar
ED: 33
Household schedule number: 45
LINE: 14
Roll: cssct1881_224
Household Members:
Name Age
Felix McCusky 40
Elizabeth Wright 37
Henry Wright 12
Mary Wright 10
John Wright 8

Yes, thank you that's her with mother and siblings.

Just been back again on Scotlands people to look for a death for Elizabeth but nothing coming up.
Spent a small fortune on her so far.

????

Elizabeth Wright
in the Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Scotland, Electoral Registers, 1857-1962
Name: Elizabeth Wright
Residence Year: 1884
Address: 60 Kirk street
Residence Place: Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Scotland
Parliamentary Division: Glasgow
Occupation: Confectioner


There's also a Margaret McDonald , dealer, at 74 1/2 Kirk Street.
and a Mrs Margaret McCluskey at 23 Kirk Street
and a Mrs Margaret Butler, butter & egg dealer, at 19 Kirk Street.

Don't know if any of those are relevant?
Each one is listed as "tenant and occupier".

EDIT:
They're all still at those addresses in 1885.

Thank you ArgyllGran,

I think they are all my ancestors just going by the addresses and occupations, but not sure about Elizabeth at No.60 and her occupation , sorry

Her marriage certificatein 1867 says Power Loom Weaver.

https://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1228606

There is a family on above (possibly relating?) 1891 (31 Kirk Street)

Chris :)

(Kirk St. ringing bells here, possibly more relating)

In 1914 and 1915 there's an Elizabeth Wright at 64 Kirk Street.
It's not an unusual name, so don't know if that's her or not.


Is this some of the family in 1901 ??
Margaret McDonald listed under her maiden name ??


Henry Wright
in the 1901 Scotland Census
Name: Henry Wright
Age: 31
Estimated birth year: abt 1870
Relationship: Nephew
Gender: Male
Where born: Glasgow, Lanarkshire
Registration Number: 644/4
Registration district: Calton
Civil Parish: Glasgow St Luke
County: Lanarkshire
Address: 31 Kirk Street
Occupation: Tramear Conductor
ED: 27
Household schedule number: 54
LINE: 17
Roll: CSSCT1901_281
Household Members:
Name Age
Margaret Butler 66 - Ireland
Henry Wright 31
John Wright 27

https://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1364469

(you found some items on above AG)

Cjhris :)

This is Elizabeth's 2 sons with another relative, Margaret nee McCluskey ( McCuskey Elizabeth's sister who was married to Daniel Butler.

It gets very confusing with my lot of Butler's and mcCluskeys, I tell you.
I have to check and re check that I am talking about the right ones.

Perhaps not my Elizabeth in 1914 as her husband's 2nd marriage in 1888 showed him a s widower.

When was Marriage, to John Mcdonald/Mcdonnal?...(if her on 1891, couldn't have gone to US till later...

Chris :)

Edits (confusing, you're not kiddin' lol)

These are my threads I mentioned Chris, cos still don't know how to copy and paste.

Margaret and John married in 1867.

Thanks for letting me know I'd researched this before, Chris! Saved me some time.

Think you need that Marriage first...(quite a few Mcdonalds Scranton)

(doesn't that 'Tree' have any more Scranton info. to check?...)

Chris :)

(lol AG, not Much Scottish you haven't been on now!, or rg and GL helpers)


Edits (below pair about!) (No, not if they had children mentioned in op!, and 1881 above)

1870 US Census (Find My Past)
John Mcdonald Male 28 1842 Ireland
Mary Mcdonald Female 17 1853 Ireland
City/township Scranton, Ward 06
County Luzerne
State Pennsylvania

(if her below)

1930 US Census (Find My Past)
Pennsylvania Mary Mcdonald Head Female 74 1856 Widowed
Pennsylvania Frank J Mcdonald Son Male 26 1904 Single
Pennsylvania Catherine Godwin Daughter Female 42 1888 Single
Pennsylvania John Godwin Son Male 35 1895 Single
Pennsylvania Peter Godwin Son Male 39 1891 Widowed
Pennsylvania Mary Godwin Daughter Female 23 1907 Single
Pennsylvania Mary Godwin Granddaughter Female 19 1911 Single
Pennsylvania Pauline Godwin Granddaughter Female 17 1913 Single
Pennsylvania Patricia Godwin Granddaughter Female 8 1922 Single
Pennsylvania William Godwin Grandson Male 10 1920 Single
Pennsylvania Peter Godwin Grandson Male 16 1914 Single
New York Helen Randal Servant Female 40 1890 Widowed
City/township Scranton
County Lackawanna
State Pennsylvania


(probably more on Ancestry also)


https://digital.nls.uk/directories/browse/

(might take some searching!, but above Scottish Post Office Directories, if you can see them)

Below, but says 1865 for Year of Immigration...

Chris :)

1900 United States Federal Census (Ancestry)

Name: Mary Mcdonall [Mary Mcdonald]
Age: 54
Birth Date: Sep 1845
Birthplace: Ireland
Home in 1900: Scranton Ward 21, Lackawanna, Pennsylvania
Ward of City: Twenty First
Street: Fourth Str
House Number: 2707
Sheet Number: 5
Number of Dwelling in Order of Visitation: 7
Family Number: 97
Race: White
Gender: Female
Immigration Year: 1865
Relation to Head of House: Wife
Marital Status: Married
Spouse's Name: John Mcdonall
Marriage Year: 1866
Years Married: 34
Father's Birthplace:
Ireland
Mother's Birthplace: Ireland
Mother: number of living children: 6
Mother: How many children: 7
Years in US: 34
Can Read: No
Can Write: No
Can Speak English: Yes
John Mcdonall 56 (Coal Miner)
Mary Mcdonall 54
Michael Mcdonall 25 (Born Pennsylvania)
Edward Mcdonall 20
Bridget Grady 22
John Grady 6
Thomas Grady 5
Edward Grady 2

(hold on, Margaret on 1881, Mary in opening post, Margaret Marrage 1867)

Chris :)

(don't tell me below related somewhere!)

Scotland Roman Catholic Parish Baptisms Transcription (Find My Past)

First name(s) Mary
Last name McDonald
Sex Female
Birth year 1873
Birth date
10 Feb 1873
Baptism year 1873
Baptism date 03 Mar 1873
Denomination Roman Catholic
Baptism place Glasgow
Parish St Joseph
Diocese Glasgow
County Lanarkshire
Country Scotland
Father's first name(s) John
Father's last name McDonald
Mother's first name(s) Mary
Mother's last name McClasker
Volume 01

(also below related)

William McDonnell 1869 1869 John Glasgow Lanarkshire

Mary McDonald 1873 1873 John Glasgow Lanarkshire


(out of my depth here!)

Sorry for such a late reply but the laptop is on the blink and still is not working properly so can't get back on Ancestry but pretty sure the tree I have been looking at shows the family to have emigrated in 1887, sent an e.mail a while ago to the tree owners but as yet no reply .

I will come back to this thread when the laptop is fully functioning.

thanks again

This is the only Patrick McDonald pob=Scotland in 1900 Lackawanna Co PA

1900 https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M334-LHZ [with image link]
Event Place District 5 Scranton city Ward 1, Lackawanna, Pennsylvania, United States
Addy 223 Charles St
John Mcdonnald Head M 52 Ireland Salesman [b 3/1848 immig 1885 naturalized]
Margret Mcdonnald Wife F 43 Ireland [b 2/1857 immig 1887 Marr 28y - 4 live births, 2 now living]
Patrick Mcdonnald Son M 23 Scotland Day Laborer [b 5/1877 immig 1887]


Note wife is Margt