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Isaac Prosser

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lancashireAnn

lancashireAnn Report 19 Feb 2018 12:38

Isaac was born in 1834-36 In Abergavenny son of Roger a wheelwright/carpenter.

I have his marriage certificate to Harriet Ballard on 7 May 1854 in Bromham and he was living in Trowbridge. I have just found a daughter Harriet Jane born in Dec qtr 1854 in Trowbridge. His second daughter Emma was born in Abergavenny. The marriage states he was of full age (probably not true as he was only 16 in 1851 and on all that I have found of him he was an iron moulder by trade.

I have never found him from his marriage onwards though I have all census of Emma. He registered Emma's birth in April 1859.

There is a tree on ancestry which suggests he died in USA, which I suspect is not true as they have him marrying out there and his baptism as the son of Isaac & Ann though the tree itself states son Roger & Jane!

However his brother was out in USA for some time as he had 2 children born out there and then returned to Wales. I do not have access to world wide ancestry and wondered if someone could look at this for me please.

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 19 Feb 2018 12:40

Is this the one on the Ancestry tree?

First name(s) Isaac
Last name Prosser
Sex Male
Age 30
Birth year 1833
Birth place England
Origin country England
Year 1863
Date 1863
Destination country United States
Place United States
Source dataset California, San Francisco Passenger Lists, 1893-1953
View original source record View the record's source
Record set British & Irish Roots Collection

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 19 Feb 2018 12:43

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Name: Isaac Prosser
Estimated birth year: abt 1834
Registration Year: 1898
Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep
Age at Death: 64
Registration district: Abergavenny
Parishes for this Registration District: View Ecclesiastical Parishes associated with this Registration District
Inferred County: Monmouthshire
Volume: 11a
Page: 37

lancashireAnn

lancashireAnn Report 19 Feb 2018 12:44

Yes that is in the tree I have found

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 19 Feb 2018 12:44

For info only

First name(s) Isaac
Last name Prosser
Age Of Age
Birth year -
Marital status B
Occupation Iron Moulder
Residence ?
Marriage year 1854
Marriage date 07 May 1854
Place Bromham
County Wiltshire
Country England
Spouse's first name(s) Harriet
Spouse's last name Ballard
Spouse's age Of Age
Spouse's marital status S
Spouse's residence Bromham
Father's name Peter Prosser
Father's occupation Carpenter
Spouse's father's name James Ballard
Spouse's father's occupation Weaver
Witness 1 James Ballard
Witness 2 Emma Prosser
Record set Wiltshire Marriages Index 1538-1933

lancashireAnn

lancashireAnn Report 19 Feb 2018 12:46

the 1898 death has a newspaper article which states that that death was in a coal mining accident which I was tempted to discard as Isaac had always described himself as an iron moulder (apprentice in 1851)

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 19 Feb 2018 12:47

Name: Isaac Prosser
Birth Year: abt 1834
Event Type: Death
Event Year: 1898
Death Age: 64
Death Date: 29 Sep 1898
Death Place: Monmouth, Wales
Occupation: Overman
Colliery: Forge Slope
Owner: Blaenavon Co Ltd
Notes: While giving directions for removing some additional side coal in the Main Heading which was being reopened after the strike a fall of roof occurred killing him instantly.

greyghost

greyghost Report 19 Feb 2018 12:47

Just to discount this one - there are 2 Isaac Prosser's on the 1841 census - yours in Abergavenny and this one in Whitson s/o Isaac and Ann

1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
216, Euston Road, Pancras Wards, St Pancras, London & Middlesex, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Sampson Windsor Lodger Married Male 23 1838 Tailor Somerset, England
James Jackson Lodger Married Male 25 1836 Carpenter Plymouth, Devon, England
Isaac Prosser Lodger Married Male 24 1837 Undertaker Whitson, Monmouthshire, Wales

lancashireAnn

lancashireAnn Report 19 Feb 2018 12:48

That is the correct marriage but his father is Roger (I have a copy of the original certificate)

lancashireAnn

lancashireAnn Report 19 Feb 2018 12:50

greyghost yes I found that and I think that is where the tree I found goes wrong, mixing up the 2 Isaacs

I agree that the 1898 one is probably that Isacc

thanks people for your help so far

greyghost

greyghost Report 19 Feb 2018 12:53

If this is Harriett in 1871, the original shows her to be a Widow

Harriett b Bramham, Wilts,
Albert b Bath
Emma b Abergavenny

1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Victoria Street, Abergavenny, Monmouthshire, Wales

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Harriett Prosser Head - Female 43 1828 - Wiltshire, England
Albert C Prosser Son - Male 18 1853 - Somerset, England
Emma Prosser Daughter - Female 11 1860 - Monmouthshire, Wales
Robert Prosser Nephew - Male 18 1853 - United States

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Name: Mother's Maiden Surname: Order:
PROSSER, EMMA BALLARD Order
GRO Reference: 1859 J Quarter in ABERGAVENNY Volume 11A Page 57

lancashireAnn

lancashireAnn Report 19 Feb 2018 13:04

greyghost - thanks - I had forgotten that one - it is on a different page of my notes. Must organise this family better. I have not looked at this branch for over 6 years

I do have Emma's birth certificate as she is my great grandmother

lancashireAnn

lancashireAnn Report 19 Feb 2018 13:08

I would guess that Albert Prosser is Albert Charles Parsons Ballard born in district Bath in 1853 mmn Ballard

greyghost

greyghost Report 19 Feb 2018 13:09

Albert b pre marriage (no mmn given)

Name: Mother's Maiden Surname:
BALLARD, ALBERT CHARLES PARSONS - Order
GRO Reference: 1852 J Quarter in BATH Volume 05C Page 737

PROSSER, HARRIET JANE BALLARD Order
GRO Reference: 1854 D Quarter in MELKSHAM Volume 05A Page 105

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 19 Feb 2018 13:09

If her below?...

Chris :)

Monmouthshire Merlin 17th February 1866

ABERGAVENNY.
POLICE COURT, WEDNESDAY.—[Before C. Bailey, Esq.]—Mary Ann Jones, Harriett Prosser, and Ann Jones, frail sisters, were charged with indecently be- having themselves.-Prosser, who is an old offender, was sentenced to one month's imprisonment, hard…

http://newspapers.library.wales/search/advanced

(worth a look on above)


Monmouthshire Merlin 20th December 1870

ABERGAVENNY.
EXTRAORDINARY CHARGE GF LIBEL.—At the Police Court, on Wednesday last, Isaac Prosser was charged with a libel on Mr. Jones...


Prosser Albert Charles Parsons 1852 — 1874 (17th August 1874) Yorkshire Marriages Doncaster, Christ Church, Yorkshire (West Riding), England (Find My Past)
Father, Isaac Prosser, occ. Moulder)

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 19 Feb 2018 13:10

??????????

First name(s) Harriet
Last name Prosser
Role Bride
Age 42
Birth year 1829
Marital status w
Year 1871
Marriage date 11 Sep 1871
Marriage place Llanwenarth Church, Llanwenarth Citra
Spouse's first name(s) Thomas
Spouse's last name Prosser
Spouse's age 32
Spouse's marital status b
Archive Gwent Archives / Archifau Gwent
Volume -
Date range 1863-1874
Record set Wales, Monmouthshire Marriage Notices 1859-1877
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Parish Marriages
Collections from Wales, Great Britain

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 19 Feb 2018 13:11

1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
52, Merthyr Road, Abergavenny, Monmouthshire, Wales

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Birth place Occupation
Harriet Prosser Head Widow Female 53 1828 Bromham, Wiltshire, England Laundress Transcription
Emma Prosser Daughter Single Female 21 1860 Abergavenny, Monmouthshire, Wales Laundress Transcription
Thomas Prosser Boarder Single Male 44 1837 Brecknockshire, Wales Plasterer Transcription

greyghost

greyghost Report 19 Feb 2018 13:12

Stated as widow 1881

1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
52, Merthyr Road, Abergavenny, Monmouthshire, Wales

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Birth place Occupation
Harriet Prosser Head Widow Female 53 1828 Bromham, Wiltshire, England Laundress
Emma Prosser Daughter Single Female 21 1860 Abergavenny, Monmouthshire, Wales Laundress
Thomas Prosser Boarder Single Male 44 1837 Brecknockshire, Wales Plasterer

lancashireAnn

lancashireAnn Report 19 Feb 2018 13:16

There are so many Prosser families in the area, most of them with similar names.

I don't think the marriage to Thomas is the right one. I have Harriet, still a widow, in both 1881 and 1891. Though she does have a Thomas boarding with he but age 44 in 81 and 50 in 91!

Charles C - Harriet was a servant in bath in 1851

I suspect that the harriet in that article Chris is a different one, but who knows it might be right

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 19 Feb 2018 13:20

The 'marriage' isn't registered - the info above is a marriage 'notice'