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17 Jan 2018 20:50 |
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Thankyou
Am getting more confused!!
Is Peter definitely the son of William and Elizabeth and not
Adam and Elizabeth?
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SylviaInCanada
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17 Jan 2018 20:49 |
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If a woman is/was married any child born to her is deemed to be the child of her husband EVEN IF the husband is/was dead at the time of conception.
I once found a child born 10 years after the husband's death, but that child was still deemed to be the husband's child.
Therefore, it looks as if William Houghton was born to the widow Elizabeth Houghton before she married John Swift.
It might be worth trying to get a look at the original Parish Record as some vicars would put the name of the putative father on the baptism of the child of a single woman or widow.
The birth certificate probably will NOT tell you the true name of the father .........
The GRO Index shows this ...........
HOUGHTON, WILLIAM FORSHAW
GRO Reference: 1849 D Quarter in PRESCOT Volume 20 Page 759
same as for Margaret .........
HOUGHTON, MARGARET FORSHAW
GRO Reference: 1842 M Quarter in PRESCOT Volume 20 Page 756
Marriage of Adam and Elizabeth??
Marriages Mar 1841 (>99%)
FORSHAM Elizabeth Prescot 20 555
HOUGHTON Adam Prescot 20 555
In other words, she was being honest in saying her married name and her maiden name ..... but Adam had been dead for several years.
It is possible that William considered himself a Swift as John would be the only father that he knew.
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17 Jan 2018 20:48 |
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Burial: 30 May 1847 St Mary the Virgin, Prescot, Lancashire, England
William Houghton -
Age: 30 yrs.
Abode: Parr
Buried by: T. M. Gosling
Register: Burials 1846 - 1855, Page 25, Entry 198
Source: LDS Film 1657597
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17 Jan 2018 20:43 |
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Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1851
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
SWIFT * John FORSHAW Elizabeth St Ann Rainhill St Helens C23/1/122
SWIFT * John HOUGHTON Elizabeth St Ann Rainhill St Helens C23/1/122
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alviegal
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17 Jan 2018 20:35 |
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???
Marriage: 25 Apr 1836 St Mary (now St Helen), St Helens, Lancashire, England
William Houghton - (X), Whiston Parish of Prescot
Elizabeth Forshaw - (X), Whiston Parish of Prescot
Witness: James Leyland, (X); Thomas Morton
Married by Banns by: Walter Bawdwen Curate
Register: Marriages 1813 - 1837 from the Bishop's Transcripts, Entry 423
Source: LDS Film 1469036
and possible burial for William.
Burial: 15 Oct 1839 St Mary the Virgin, Prescot, Lancashire, England
William Houghton -
Age: 33
Abode: Whiston
Buried by: Wm. Coombs
Register: Burials 1836 - 1846, Page 78, Entry 617
Source: LDS Film 1657597
These are all from http://www.lan-opc.org.uk/
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alviegal
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17 Jan 2018 20:31 |
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Death of Adam?
Burial: 22 Dec 1843 St Mary the Virgin, Prescot, Lancashire, England
Ad. Houghton -
Age: 20
Abode: Whiston
Register: Burials 1836 - 1846, Page 203, Entry 1620
Source: LDS Film 1657597
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alviegal
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17 Jan 2018 20:28 |
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Margaret?
Baptism: 27 Mar 1842 St Mary the Virgin, Prescot, Lancashire, England
Margaret Houghton - [Child] of Adam Houghton & Elizabeth
Abode: Whiston
Occupation: Labourer
Baptised by: G. T. Driffield
Register: Baptisms 1835 - 1842, Page 276, Entry 2203
Source: LDS Film 1657583
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17 Jan 2018 20:26 |
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Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1849
Surname Forename(s) Mother's Maiden Name Sub-District Registers At Reference
HOUGHTON William H Prescot Prescot PRE/10/78
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17 Jan 2018 20:24 |
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Is this him?
Baptism: 30 Nov 1849 St Mary the Virgin, Prescot, Lancashire, England
William Houghton - [Child] of Elizabeth Houghton
Abode: Whiston
Baptised by: H. Walker
Register: Baptisms 1843 - 1851, Page 244, Entry 1946
Source: LDS Film 1657584
Possible for Peter.
Baptism: 10 Mar 1837 St Mary the Virgin, Prescot, Lancashire, England
Peter Houghton - Son of William Houghton & Elizabeth
Abode: Whiston
Occupation: Collier
Baptised by: C. G. T. Driffield
Register: Baptisms 1835 - 1842, Page 81, Entry 644
Source: LDS Film 1657583
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17 Jan 2018 20:23 |
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Marriages Mar 1851 (>99%)
Houghton Elizabeth Prescot 20 761
Swift John Prescot 20 761
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Elizabeth
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17 Jan 2018 19:56 |
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I suppose finding out when if Adam died and when Elizabeth married John would be a start!
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Elizabeth
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17 Jan 2018 19:51 |
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This is complicated!
Above is my great grandfather.
I am trying to work out how to order his birth certificate to find out who his father was.
So far I have his marriage certificate
He married Elizabeth Waine 13/11/1871 in whiston.
On the certificate william’s father is blank.
I have found 1841 census
Adam Houghton 15 think this should be 25
Elizabeth Houghton 20
Peter Houghton 4
Ellen Houghton 1 (I think she must have died)
1851 Census
John Swift
Elizabeth Swift
Peter Houghton 14 stepson
Margaret Houghton 9 stepdaughter
William Swift 1 son.......this is who I am interested in
1871
William Swift is still with his parents the year he gets married.Marriage certificate says William Houghton
A Roberts Naylor is a witness on the certificate..he is a neighbour of the swift’s in the 1871 census
I now need to work out how to order and how many birth certificates to order to see if William was a Swift or Houghton .
Please help...this is driving me nuts!,
In 1881 census William calls himself Swift
After that he calls himself Houghton
Any advise would be very much appreciated
Elizabeth
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