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Olive May Smith

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Bruce

Bruce Report 9 Dec 2017 12:29

Olive May Smith was born in Oct-Dec 1901 and baptised on 30 May 1902 at Great Limber in Lincolnshire.
An Olive May Smith aged 12 years emigrated to Canada under the auspices of the Salvation Army on the ship Andania, from Southampton on 17.7.1913 arriving at Quebec on 26.7.1913.
On 12 May 1956 John Arthur Tydeman, b. 6.10.1881 England, died at Vancouver Briitish Columbia. His wife was shown as Olive May Smith.

I am trying to connect the three Olive May Smith or eliminate them as not the same person.

Can anyone help please.

Rambling

Rambling Report 9 Dec 2017 12:50

Looking at the BAC

Just for ref, have you checked to see if the other girls were related?

SMITH Florence 12 ANDANIA 1913
SMITH Elizabeth 10 ANDANIA 1913
SMITH Olive May 12 ANDANIA 1913


Item: Olive May SMITH (86785)
Given Name(s): Olive May
Surname: SMITH
Gender: F
Age: 12
Year of Arrival: 1913
Ship: ANDANIA
Date of Departure: 1913-07-17
Port of Departure: Southampton
Date of Arrival: 1913-07-26
Port of Arrival: Quebec
Children travelling together: Q13GB
Comments: Individuals
Type of Records: Passenger Lists
Microfilm Reel Number: T-4801
Reference: RG 76 C1a
Source: Library and Archives Canada
Database Item Number: 86785

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1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Blyborough Kirton Lindsey Lincolnshire, Blyborough, Lincolnshire, England

William Smith Head Married Male Farm Labourer 35 1876 Hatcliffe Linconshire
Annie Elizabeth Smith Wife Married Female - 33 1878 Kirton Lindsey Lincolnshire
Ivy Annie Smith Daughter - Female School 10 1901 Limber Lincolnshire
Olive May Smith Daughter - Female School 9 1902 Limber Lincolnshire
Harry Smith Son - Male - 2 1909 Blyborough Lincolnshire
John Spindley Boarder Single Male Farm Waggoner 21 1890 Burringham Lincolnshire
John Hollingsworth Boarder Single Male Farm Waggoner 17 1894 Blyton Lincolnshire
Harold Ashley Boarder Single Male Farm Waggoner 19 1892 Broughton Lincolnshire
Alice Taylor Visitor Single Female - 17 1894 Kirton Lindsey Lincolnshire

Rambling

Rambling Report 9 Dec 2017 13:01

again just for ref
Lincolnshire Baptisms

Record set Lincolnshire Baptisms
First name(s) Olive May
Sex Female
Last name Smith
Baptism year 1902
Birth year 1901
County Lincolnshire
Country England
Place Great Limber
Mother's first name(s) Annie Elizabeth
Father's first name(s) William
Page 38
Birth date 17 Oct 1901
Baptism date 30 Mar 1902
Archive Lincolnshire Archives
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Parish Baptisms
Collections from England, Great Britain

Rambling

Rambling Report 9 Dec 2017 13:09



DOB a year out but that is not unusual

Scoffin Household (4 People)
58 Ville Road , Scunthorpe M.B., Lincolnshire (Parts of Lindsey), England

Olive M Scoffin 17 Oct 1902 Female Unpd Dom Duties - 391 2
David W Scoffin 25 Sep 1894 Male General Labourer Married 391 1
Sorry, this record is officially closed. Check if you can open a closed record.
Eileen Barley (Scoffin) 29 Jun 1929 Female At School Married 391 4

Marriages Jun 1925 (>99%)
Smith Olive M Scoffin Glanford B. 7a 1825

England Marriages 1538-1973 Transcription

First name(s) Olive May
Last name Smith
Name note -
Age 23
Marriage year 1925
Marriage date 20 May 1925
Marriage place Kirton-In-Lindsey
Father's first name(s) William
Father's last name Smith
Spouse's first name(s) David William
Spouse's last name Scoffin
Spouse's birth year 1895
Spouse's birth date 1895
Spouse's father's first name(s) William David
Spouse's father's last name Scoffin
Residence Kirton-in-Lindsey, Lincoln, England
County Lincolnshire
Country England
Record set England Marriages 1538-1973
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Parish Marriages
Collections from England, Great Britain

Flip

Flip Report 9 Dec 2017 13:14

There's almost 20 years age difference between John and the Olive you are looking at - what leads you to think this is the right Olive May? Are you coming at this from John's family or Olive's - and what other info do you have?

Rambling

Rambling Report 9 Dec 2017 13:24

From http://theweald.org/N10d.asp?NId=5582440


13. John Arthur Tydeman was the son of Marcus Jabez Tydeman, draper and Charlotte Mary Tydeman [Newman]. He was born 6th Oct 1881 at Rye, Sussex, registered at Rye District, Sussex, ref: 1881 Q4 Vol 2b Page 3; died 1956 at Alberta, Canada
He married Olive Mary Smith on 16th Aug 1916 at USA. She was born c 1880

AustinQ

AustinQ Report 9 Dec 2017 13:31

Death confirming information from Nyx:

First name(s) OLIVE MAY
Last name SCOFFIN
Gender Female
Birth day 17 October 1901
Death quarter 4
Death year 1994
District Scunthorpe
District number 5541A
Register number A35B
Entry number 039
Date of registration mm/yy 1294

Rambling

Rambling Report 9 Dec 2017 13:36

Well something's not adding up,see mother's name for John here, does not match other details on the weald site for his mother?


Olive May Smith
mentioned in the record of John Arthur Tydeman
Name Olive May Smith
Sex Unknown
Husband John Arthur Tydeman
Other information in the record of John Arthur Tydeman
from British Columbia Death Registrations
Name John Arthur Tydeman
Event Type Death
Event Date 12 May 1956
Event Place Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada
Gender Male
Age 74
Marital Status Married
Birth Date 06 Oct 1881
Birth Year (Estimated) 1882
Birthplace , England
Father's Name Tydeman
Mother's Name Margaret <<<<
Spouse's Name Olive May Smith


Marriages Sep 1872 (>99%)

Newman Charlotte Mary Farnham 2a 154
TYDEMAN Marcus Jabez Farnham 2a 154

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 9 Dec 2017 14:01

Olive May Scoffin in the England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966, 1973-1995

Of 5 St Catherines Court, Ashby, Scunthorpe South...Not Exceeding £125.000



David William Scoffin in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007
Name: David William Scoffin
Death Age: 85
Birth Date: 25 Sep 1894
Registration Date: Mar 1980
Registration district: Scunthorpe
Inferred County: Humberside
Volume: 7
Page: 1256



David William Scoffin in the England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966, 1973-1995

Of 58 Ville Road, Ashby, Scunthorpe........£8870

Rambling

Rambling Report 9 Dec 2017 14:22

Not finding an Olive Smith on 1921 census for Canada or Tydeman

Rambling

Rambling Report 9 Dec 2017 14:37

John A was on the 1901 with parents
1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Station Road, Jarvis Brook, Rotherfield, Uckfield, Sussex, England



Marcus J Tydeman Head Married Male 54 1847 Draper Outfitter & Hair Dresser Chelmsford, Essex, England
Charlotte M Tydeman Wife Married Female 53 1848 - Farnham, Surrey, England
Edith Tydeman Daughter Single Female 22 1879 Milliner's Assistant Maidstone, Kent, England
Albert C Tydeman Son Single Male 20 1881 Drapers Assistant Rye, Sussex, England
John A Tydeman Son Single Male 19 1882 Clothier's Assistant Rye, Sussex, England
Agnes R Tydeman Daughter Single Female 13 1888 - Maidstone, Kent, England

Eileen

Eileen Report 9 Dec 2017 15:42

1939 census shows Olive M Scoffin in Scunthorpe distric with David Scoffin, dob given as 1902
Eileen

Maddie

Maddie Report 9 Dec 2017 15:53

gives full dob,
Scoffin Household (4 People) 58 Ville Road , Scunthorpe M.B., Lincolnshire (Parts of Lindsey), England

First name(s) Last name(s) DOB Sex Occupation Marital status Schedule Schedule Sub Number
Olive M Scoffin 17 Oct 1902 Female Unpd Dom Duties - 391 2
David W Scoffin 25 Sep 1894 Male General Labourer Married 391 1
Sorry, this record is officially closed. Check if you can open a closed record.
Eileen Barley (Scoffin) 29 Jun 1929 Female At School Married 391 4

Ref: RG101/6451G/011/30 Letter Code: © Findmypast Ltd

Rambling

Rambling Report 9 Dec 2017 16:00

already posted the 1939, see post at 13.09 and pointed out that it is not uncommon for the DOB to be out by a year or so

Bruce

Bruce Report 9 Dec 2017 18:32

Many thanks everyone for your assistance.
It is obvious that the three Olive May Smiths in my original request are not the same person.
Once again many thanks